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This is a discussion on Doomsday Preppers within the SHTF/Survival&Disaster Preparedness forums, part of the Use and Training category; Originally Posted by WinterWizard I think they should change the name of the show from "Doomsday Preppers" to "People Who Will Be Killed For Their ...


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Old 02-13-2012, 01:52 PM   #71
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I think they should change the name of the show from "Doomsday Preppers" to "People Who Will Be Killed For Their Food In SHTF Situation Because They Won't Be Able To Defend Themselves Or Their Property."
I don't know about that... That first dude was pretty well armed and had been training.

As for that democratic lady that didn't believe in guns... Her **** is as good as gone.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:55 PM   #72
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She might have a better chance than you think. The state of Texas should be one of the first to clean up the trash in SHTF.
Doubtful. Yall got too many people over there. Not to mention the Mexican gangs.

Mississippi is probably one of your best places to be when the SHTF. there isn't a lot of people in our state.
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:26 PM   #73
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I think they should change the name of the show from "Doomsday Preppers" to "People Who Will Be Killed For Their Food In SHTF Situation Because They Won't Be Able To Defend Themselves Or Their Property."
I'd have to agree. I see it along the same lines as concealed carry meaning "concealed", as in no one knows. If having people in their community/surrounding area know they had supplies weren't enough, these people went on national TV letting everyone know they're pretty well stocked on food and such.

I'd say the people that built the compound probably have the best chance. A few wounded and a few fires can be terribly demotivating, though.

The girl in Houston was terribly annoying. Walking out weeks after things have hit the crapper? She's toast. If it appears you have anything that anyone could use, you're toast and she wants to walk out with a big 'ol backpack?

The couple that have gourmet food that went through the trouble of learning Tagalog, if it were spoken in front of bad guys, would probably get shot. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you don't know what they're saying, chances are it's about you. They've got to be kidding themselves to think someone won't hear her fat butt walking down the hallways. The BG would just have to sit and wait.

The guy with the broken foot, back and hand I actually feel sorry for. Someone would eventually come around and see they can take his supplies and leave him behind. With all the health issues, he'd be of little benefit to his community other than the initial stash, but once that's taken, he's of little value. His health was even pointed out to him, but does he heed the warning? No. He stated he may have gotten worse. I just feel sorry for him.
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Doubtful. Yall got too many people over there. Not to mention the Mexican gangs.

Mississippi is probably one of your best places to be when the SHTF. there isn't a lot of people in our state.
Where do you live?
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The best way to know if you're prepared is to do a test run of course - so go cut the main circuit breaker to your house and shut off the water main, and live like that for 3 days.

Could you do it? Now if the SHTF and you had to that might make it easier - or much more stressful.

But it's a great way to test you food skills. My mother used dried beans and I remember her soaking them over night. I've only ever made rice in microwave.
And have you any sauce for that pasta, or is plain jane noodles whats for dinner?

THis summer when we camp I plan to try cooking over a fire in a primitive form, at least a few times.

Hot Dogs are a huntable species, right?

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I went to Costco today for lunch (who can beat $1.99 pizza or $1.50 hot dogs and drink?) anyway decided to stop and look at prices of bulk rice, beans, oats, pasta, sugar, and cases of water.
Long grain rice 50lbs- $18.59
Jasmine rice 50lbs- $29.99
Basmati rice 20lbs- $13.99
Pinto beans (only beans in bulk available) 25lbs- $18.99
All purpose flour 50lbs- $13.39
white sugar 50lbs- $28.99
Oats 10lbs- $7.89
Spaghetti pasta 8.8lbs- $7.99
water 35 bottles 16.9oz- $3.75

so for two people for 3 months you can expect
50lbs of beans, rice, flour and sugar, 20 lbs of oats, 8.8lbs of pasta, and 12 cases of water to cook all of that = $167.72
and weigh 675lbs

I should have looked at yeast, salt, and other stuff also but hey it was my lunch break.
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The best way to know if you're prepared is to do a test run of course - so go cut the main circuit breaker to your house and shut off the water main, and live like that for 3 days.

Could you do it? Now if the SHTF and you had to that might make it easier - or much more stressful.

But it's a great way to test you food skills. My mother used dried beans and I remember her soaking them over night. I've only ever made rice in microwave.
And have you any sauce for that pasta, or is plain jane noodles whats for dinner?

THis summer when we camp I plan to try cooking over a fire in a primitive form, at least a few times.

Hot Dogs are a huntable species, right?
Am I over reacting thinking this guy is attacking me a little?

The point of my post was that it doesn't take a lot of money to store things away, they are cheap, available, and will last a long time if stored properly. Was it meant to be a complete list? heck no, tons of gaps, I also openly stated that was JUST carbs (and some protein and fat which are naturally in those sources).
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Am I over reacting thinking this guy is attacking me a little?

The point of my post was that it doesn't take a lot of money to store things away, they are cheap, available, and will last a long time if stored properly. Was it meant to be a complete list? heck no, tons of gaps, I also openly stated that was JUST carbs (and some protein and fat which are naturally in those sources).
Not attacking - just adding some extra info.

For example- I drink a pot of coffee a day using a mr coffee. If the SHTF I'm gonna want my coffee - or need a lot more bullets! And a pot to make that coffee over a fire with.

So having a hill of beans, yeah, pun intended, may be food - would you eat it? Could you cook it? The how and the tools.

Reminds of an early camping trip as a kid -ok, we camped in the back yard. Had canned beans, had a fire. Had no way to open the can. Had a metal pan...no pot holder.

The only way to know for sure if youre prepped, if you plan will work, is to do a dry run.

I know almost every time we go camping - and we have a checklist - something gets forgotten. And camping is something we do 5 or 6 times a years.

Survival? SHTF? TEOTWAWKIT? All new to me.
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Ok cool. I agree you do have to have considerable planning and alternatives for a lot of things. And the know how to do them. My family eats rice and beans a lot, partially because we're not rich but also because we have a lot of them sitting around lol. Ways to cook all of them is more the problem for me now. Propane for me is the most practical. Solar would be another that is great here in Az put a lot of upfront cost.
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The best way to know if you're prepared is to do a test run of course - so go cut the main circuit breaker to your house and shut off the water main, and live like that for 3 days.

Could you do it? Now if the SHTF and you had to that might make it easier - or much more stressful.

But it's a great way to test you food skills. My mother used dried beans and I remember her soaking them over night. I've only ever made rice in microwave.
And have you any sauce for that pasta, or is plain jane noodles whats for dinner?

THis summer when we camp I plan to try cooking over a fire in a primitive form, at least a few times.

Hot Dogs are a huntable species, right?
I would love to do something like this, but 1) I work from home four days a week so need power and 2) I doubt my wife would go for it. I think we'd be okay, though.

We go camping a few times a year too. The best grill I've found is the Adjust-A-Grill:

Cooking with a campfire grill made easy! Adjust-A-Grill and Fire Pan - Great for cooking food over an open fire!

I actually flip the grill upside down so that there's a border. Keeps the dogs from falling over the side. The nice thing about it is that you can easily adjust the height and also swing it over and out of the flame. Very solid construction.
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The best way to know if you're prepared is to do a test run of course - so go cut the main circuit breaker to your house and shut off the water main, and live like that for 3 days.

Could you do it? Now if the SHTF and you had to that might make it easier - or much more stressful.

But it's a great way to test you food skills. My mother used dried beans and I remember her soaking them over night. I've only ever made rice in microwave.
And have you any sauce for that pasta, or is plain jane noodles whats for dinner?

THis summer when we camp I plan to try cooking over a fire in a primitive form, at least a few times.

Hot Dogs are a huntable species, right?
I've spent literally years developing primitive skills. I've camped out for weeks at a time with little more than basic tools and d*mn few supplies. Most of what I know is based on Native American knowledge and skills. It takes some getting used to at first, but you will get very comfortable with it quickly so long as you stay with it. I've even got a "parched corn" receipe that takes up almost no space, has little weight, and will sustain you for long periods of time. Hell, it even tastes good and it's easy to make.

One resource book I've used that has a lot of info is, "Naked into the Wilderness: Primitive Wilderness Living & Survival Skills" by John and Geri McPherson. It's just one of many books I have found useful over the years.

Hotdogs? Much to learn.

Best of luck to you.
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