XD Talk

  • Home
  • Forum
  • Active Topics
  • Gallery
  • Social Groups
  • Search
  • Today's Posts
  • Mark Forums Read
  • Register
  • Advertise

The best carbine/pistol combo for SHTF???

This is a discussion on The best carbine/pistol combo for SHTF??? within the SHTF/Survival&Disaster Preparedness forums, part of the Use and Training category; What do you all think about this subject? We all know that you should have a system of firearms for this type of situation but, ...


Reply
Old 01-22-2011, 10:01 PM   #1
XDTalk Member
 
luddy2009's Avatar
 
Member #: 51493
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 61
The best carbine/pistol combo for SHTF???

What do you all think about this subject? We all know that you should have a system of firearms for this type of situation but, do you think a carbine and a pistol are your best options? Maybe a carbine and a shotgun, maybe a shotgun and a pistol? Maybe some other combo?

What are your thoughts?

My choice would be the HK 45 pistol and the HK USC/UMP 45 carbine. Why? Well, they are both pretty reliable firearms and they utilize the same caliber of ammo. I personally feel that packing two different calibers would be slightly cumbersome and possible confusing when looking to reload. IMO, I would certainly sacrifice some distance range of something like an AR for matching caliber guns.

The USC/UMP carbines sport enough accuracy to handle some distance; probably like 200 yards if your a good shot. They also have the knock down power of the .45 ACP behind them for close quarters work.
__________________
2- 4" XD .45 OD Green w/ Black Slide
1- 4" XD .45 Compact OD Green w/ Black Slide
2- XDM .45 Bi-Tone
1- FNH FNP .45
1- H&K .45
1- Ruger P345
1- Sig Sauer P220 Elite Stainless
1- Steamlight TLR-2 Strobe

Ammo of Choice- Winchester Ranger-T

Wish List:
Sig Sauer P226 Navy
H&K MP5
West Germany Sig Sauer (Any Model/Caliber)
luddy2009 is offline   Reply With Quote
Remove Ads
Old 01-22-2011, 10:07 PM   #2
XDTalk 3K Member
 
Member #: 39767
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Beaumont, TX
Posts: 3,012
I would not ask a pistol round to do a rifle's job. A 45 pistol is great. A 45 carbons, not so much. Do yourself a favor and get an ar or ak.
__________________
When you keep voting for the lesser of two evils you still get evil.
Reyort is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 10:53 PM   #3
XDTalk 500 Member
 
Member #: 29299
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 837
HK is up there in terms of quality, you can't go wrong. Personally, I'll go with an AK and a Draco

I think in general we all over think the which rifle/pistol to buy thing. It's fun to talk about, but the fact that you can have endless debates about pretty much any rifle or pistol proves there usually is no clear choice. From now on I'm just going to buy what I like to shoot. I'll take them to the range more and get better with them. Plus I'll have fun. So, the best one IMO is the one you love the most.

The only other thing I'll say is if you are shooting at someone 200 yards away with a .45 you better aim high.
ackks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 11:12 PM   #4
XDTalk Member
 
Member #: 37752
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dallas
Posts: 55
For a SHTF scenerio where we're faced with battlefield type conditions, I would probably pick my Sig 226 9mm as my pistol of choice. The runner up to this would have been my HK USP in .45. The tiebreaker was that 9mm would most likely be more readly available and since I've trained more with 9mm, my follow up accuracy is much higher, thus choosing the Sig 226.

As far as a rifle, I'd probably grab my 16" POF P308 Recon. The rifle pick was difficult as I was really contemplating grabbing an AR15 instead, The .223 and ammo would be much lighter and easier to carry then the AR10 with full .308 mags. I would also be able to carry more ammo in .223. The tiebreaker was that in .308 I would have a greater range with better takedown power and since it's in a 16" configuration it would still work in a CQB situation if needed.

Hopefully this won't be a realistic situation that any of us will ever be faced with, but preparedness for any such scenerio is always a huge advantage if the worst ever happened.

PA
Pierced Armor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2011, 11:31 PM   #5
XDTalk 10K Member
 
Groo's Avatar
 
Member #: 34520
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Western U.P.
Posts: 10,813
If you want a carbine and pistol to be matched, either go light (22lr) or better pick something with a little more oomph than a 45. maybe a 44 mag or larger.

You are short changing yourself bad to avoid hauling an extra type of ammo.

pistols work best being small and light with short fat rounds. rifles work best with long skinny high-speed rounds.

the only modern round I know of designed as both a pistol and carbine round is the 5.7, and honestly, you are gunna need some serious coin to load up and practice with that combo. even then, you still have 2 different mags, so no net gain there.

I believe there is a ukrainian revolver out there chambered in 5.45x39
Groo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 02:15 AM   #6
XDTalk 100 Member
 
Member #: 38021
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Texas-DFW
Posts: 312
Honestly, it depends on your environment. In a close in urban area a 45 pistol/carbine combo might be ok. Still no substitute for a rifle... 45 ain't a rifle.

In my rural area that would be a death sentence. You and your family could be taken out at the bad guys leasure with grand dads deer rifle. You are pinned down cause he is out of your range.

My combo is my XD9 and 308 FAL. I have an AR & Shotgun for back up. A shotgun is a necessity as a grocery getter and a specialty arm.
1911XD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 07:31 AM   #7
XDTalk 10K Member
 
Cuda66's Avatar
 
Member #: 27123
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Kandiyohi County, MN--land of fields and lakes.
Posts: 12,910
Without a doubt, a .45-70 BFR and a Marlin 1895.

That way, when it really, truly hits the fan, you can reload with homemade black powder.
__________________
When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross. - Sinclair Lewis


Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding it's way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge".--Isaac Asimov
Cuda66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 08:37 AM   #8
XDTalk 4K Member
 
Member #: 16572
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,676
Whoopie ... Another iteration of the "best SHTF weapon/long gun/pistol" topic ...

I love posting my choice of Beretta CX4 9mm carbine, and XDSC 9mm pistol, because then all the nay sayers, vis-a-vis pistol caliber carbines, come out.

Actually, the folks that don't like the pistol caliber carbines make good points. A pistol caliber round just doesn't perform like a rifle caliber round does. Even when fired from a long gun. They don't travel as far, and start to drop after about 100 yds. Don't think you're going to overcome that deficiency by loading +P rounds in your carbine, either. Ballistic reports on +P pistol rounds fired from carbines shows reduced muzzle velocity, and accuracy when compared to rounds with normal loads. Seems like regular FMJ rounds (Walmart, Remington White Box) perform best in a carbine.

Having said that, I chose the CX4 and XD9SC for reasons other than just performance of the rounds being fired. I wanted to have two quality guns that would be rugged and reliable, have reasonable accuracy up to 100 yds, be easy to carry, use, and clean, and would use a common caliber ammunition, which could most easily be found (stolen, scavenged?) in a time of societal breakdown. Also, carrying one caliber for both guns saves weight in the BOB. I.E. better to have a "good" gun with ammo, that the "best" gun without.

I have an AR-15, I carried and used an M-16 in combat in Vietnam. They are good guns (but I don't care for the AR's reliability). I'll bring and use my AR, if I'm bugging out in my truck, or have to bug in. My primary plan for the AR is for hunting and maybe long range sniping. However, the BOB is only packed with 9mm rounds, because if I just have time to grab two guns, it will be the CX4 and XD9SC.
__________________

Radio Relay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 09:02 AM   #9
XDTalk 1K Member
 
m2jordan's Avatar
 
Member #: 29276
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 1,688
A good 44mag lever gun and a good 44mag handgun. If you have to have the same round.

Otherwise a good carbine that you like and shoot well (AR, AK, etc...) and your favorite hand gun. Currently my truck guns are a XD45 Tac, Ak, and a Mossy500A persuader.
__________________
NRA life
USPSA FY50526
m2jordan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2011, 12:04 PM   #10
XDTalk 5K Member
 
Member #: 38362
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 7,482
I'd go for a 9mm pistol and a .223 rifle both have cheap, available and more importantly light weight ammo. The pistol is only for last ditch anyway, the rifle is for the real work. Why compromise the rifle's power with a pistol round ? After all, you still have the same weight or more to haul around, why not haul something serious ?
__________________
Ever since the tragic boating accident, my only weapons are;

Tactical black cat - sleeps in doorways



A right unused become a privilege for the ruling class.

john_bud is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   XDTalk Forums - Your XD/XD(m) Information Source! » Use and Training » SHTF/Survival&Disaster Preparedness


Search tags for this page
9mm carbine for shtf
,
best 9mm carbine for the money
,
best carbine
,
best pistol and carbine combo
,

best pistol caliber carbine

,

best pistol carbine

,
best pistol carbine combo
,
best shtf carbine
,
best shtf gun combo
,
carbine pistol combo
,
hk usc for shtf
,
pistol caliber carbine for shtf
,
pistol caliber carbine shtf
,

pistol carbine combo

,

shtf carbine

,
what is the best carbine caliber to match a pistol
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/shtf-survival-disaster-preparedness/166589-best-carbine-pistol-combo-shtf.html
Posted By For Type Date
First gun or rifle recc's? This thread Refback 12-20-2012 05:19 PM