Originally Posted by Mudinyeri
If you regularly use words like "wattup", "peeps" and "shottie" as you did in your OP, I'd recommend the Blackwater edition.
oh word? In that case I'll purchase 2 of them, one to use and the other to store for sale 10 years from now at 8 times the price!!
Come on college boy, next you'll be telling me gangsta rap is corrupting our children and video games lead to violence... Maybe YOUR president should ban both of those activities, WINK!!
Gentlmen, aside from college boy above, yall gave me some good advise and A LOT to to think about.. Great group of guys here, ragnar special thanks for your in depth answers my good man!!
I came into this wanting the "ultimate" shotgun and my research lead me to the 590a1..
Saw the Blackwater edition and with my limited knowledge FIGURED it was a no brainer, i.e. 590a1 platform with all these EXTRAs.. rails and the sites and at the time I thought it was nifty that the stock had a slot for an (read: 1 SINGLE SHELL ONLY) extra emergency shell.. but ragnar schooled me..
The "regular" 590a1 is going for about $450-475 WHEREAS the Blackwater 590a1 is going for $475-550..
So i was coming into this thinking, hey for an extra $50 I get the updated model with all the "extras"
BUT NOW I know better.. thanks to yall!
seems the Blackwater version REALLY is just a tacticooL ploy huh?
1. the sight ain't all its cracked up to, user preference i'm sure..
2. the rails are NOT practical?
a. some1 posted that the top 1 isn't enuff for a proper scope?
b. the side one is on moving part, didn't realize that, that can't be good
c. the bottom one i have no clue on, cept yall sayin its either akward to use or if NOT used can lead to physical harm on the hand..
interesting.. WHY the heck would they issue such an impractible version? I mean some mall ninjas might buy it right? but the overall consensus is that anyone being "real" about how and where to use this gun would stay far far away..
To be honest I could care less about the logo, its kinda retarded if you ask me.. oh wait forgot about college boy, I mean its kinda corny looking to me..
but yeah I WANT/NEED a 590a1
BUT there's too many got d@m choices!!! What the jibs man..
I want the 590a1, 20" 8/9 shot capacity. I want it for the heavy walled barrel..and well earned reputation of being a gun fit for survival
but is there any 590a1 experts out here that can help decipher all the different models?
I don't think i want the blackwater model because of what seems to be impractical rail real estate locations, i.e. on moving parts..
BUT once explained what that stock was, I love and want a speedstock, figure you already carrying the stock why NOT keep an emergency 4 in there..
I will not have any funds available for a very long time after the shottie purchase, but I was thinking of at least mounting a FLASHLIGHT on there at some point in the future..
primary purpose of this gun will be a HD/zombie slayer weapon
There you have it gents
any help in deciphering and breaking down the myriad options mossberg gives me would be appreciated..
1. 590 51663 $456
<-- this is the civiliar version of what essentially turns out 2 be a 590a1 since it does have the hvy walled barrel
2. 590a1 51660 $460
<-- i think this is the one i want, original 590a1 plain and simple right?
3. 590a1 51668 $500
<-- not sure on this one.. mossbert site shows it with speedfeed stock, but no one sells it as such..
So there you have it gents, help me understand what the basics are and differences between these 3?
wikipedia says the 51663 is the civilian version of the 590a1 but that doesn't make sense to me since essentially any civilian can buy any of the 590a1's as they are not restricted.. but yeah, not sure what the big difference is between the 51660 and the 51668 versions..
I want one of those 3 for HD and would like to have a speedfeed stock and flashlight sometime in the far, far future..
let me have it gents!
well after proofreading my post I think in posting it I learned my answers, but in case that I am wrong plus wanna hear from more experienced users I will post the post..
that and I just spent an HOUR writing it all up.. sheesh!
p.s. i googled but didn't get a real answer, how much would the speedfeed stock cost? how much would the flashlight run me? makes and models?