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Shipping a gun - who, how, where, when and why

This is a discussion on Shipping a gun - who, how, where, when and why within the SA-XD/XD(M) FAQ & Stickies forums, part of the Information category; I have noticed quite a lot of misinformation here about shipping guns. This FAQ should cover all questions. AS A SELLER/SHIPPER OF FIREARMS For a ...

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Shipping a gun - who, how, where, when and why

I have noticed quite a lot of misinformation here about shipping guns. This FAQ should cover all questions.

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AS A SELLER/SHIPPER OF FIREARMS

For a quick reference, check these links:


ATF Online - Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52.pdf

FXNL Rules Tariff

UPS: Shipping Firearms

The Gun Zone -- Shipping Firearms


AS A SELLER/SHIPPER - IF YOU WANT TO SAVE TIME READING:

How about this "short course" on shipping firearms:

***Declare all firearm shipments***and***Unless prohibited by your state or local laws***

A Non-FFL can ship a rifle or shotgun, via US Mail or common carrier (Fed Ex or UPS) to an FFL, back to the factory, or gunsmith, or out of state (to yourself). Or ship a rifle to another non-prohibited person within your state.

A Non-FFL can also ship a pistol via common carrier to an FFL, back to the factory, or gunsmith, or out of state (to yourself). Or ship a pistol (via common carrier) to another non-prohibited person within your state.
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The common carriers make the rules on how they want it shipped (overnight, same day or whatever), cause they can't trust their employees.

*THINGS MAY HAVE CHANGED* Some UPS employees THINK that the additional tariff rule ONLY allows shipping by authorized lic. to authorized lic. But read it carefully, it DOES allow for a non-FFL to ship to a FFL holder, back to the factory, or gunsmith. A lot of folks use Fed Ex cause, UPS has some ”problem employees,” that have a difficult time reading their own rules. *THINGS MAY HAVE CHANGED*
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US POSTAL SERVICE:

Non-FFL people, may mail a rifle or shotgun via the USPS.

Non-FFL people, may NOT mail a handgun via the USPS. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

For an FFL holder, a pistol (or rifle or shotgun) can be shipped FFL to FFL, FFL to the factory, or FFL to the gunsmith, via the US Mail.

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Shipping to an FFL, without a signed inked FFL in your hand
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The shipper/seller, for their protection, needs to verify the receiver is a licensed dealer. They need to ask for the receiver's FFL Number.
The shipper should then go to this website to verify the license and address: ATF FFL Ez Check Site.
The shipper should print the screen they get.
They can then legally ship the gun to the receiver, but only at the address verified at the Ez Check Site.

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IF YOU’RE THE BUYER OF A FIREARM (FROM ANOTHER STATE


Since this is SALE of a firearm, the seller will ship the firearm to your FFL (not directly to you). Once the gun is at your local FFL, the FFL will record it in his book, he'll be responsible to check you out. Making sure you're not a prohibited person, have followed your local and state laws, have paid the correct fees (if applicable), and of course filled out form 4473.

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SHIPPING ANTIQUES

If the gun was manufactured prior to or in 1898 NOT in or after 1899, it is an antique. Period. It can be sent ANY way you like. The reference made to the type of ammo it fires applies to REPLICAS, NOT the real thing. If it is manufactured prior to 1899, it IS an antique and NOT covered by the GCA and is NOT a firearm by ANY definition under the law. There may be some weird state law somewhere, but I am not aware of it. Perhaps in Illinois, they have some weird laws.

The gun you described can be sent ANY way you like.


Title 18, Section 921(a)(16) then defines "antique firearm" as follows:

"The term 'antique firearm' means -

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; and
(any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica -
(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or
(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade."

And….
Ship them USPS insured. They are NOT firearms and therefore are not controlled by the same laws. Do NOT declare what they are unless you want to start an argument with someone unknowledgeable. That is not necessary.


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FedEx Rules Governing Firearms Shipment
General Rules for Firearms

FedEx Express will transport and deliver firearms as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:
Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or
Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).
If your shipment contains firearms, select the Direct Signature Required Delivery Signature Option or Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option, depending on the requirements of your shipment. See the Delivery Signature Options section for details. Firearms shipments are not eligible for signature release or indirect delivery.
Firearms must be shipped via FedEx Priority Overnight service. FedEx Express cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D. Firearms shipments cannot be placed in a FedEx Express Drop Box.
Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Express is required to notify FedEx Express that the package contains a firearm. The outside of the package must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package contains a firearm.
The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law.
The shipper and recipient are required to comply with all applicable government regulations and laws, including those pertaining to labeling. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can provide assistance.
FedEx Express will transport ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Dangerous Goods section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as dangerous goods. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

Additional Ground Tarrif Rules for FedEx

FedEx Ground will transport and deliver firearms (excluding handguns) as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between:
Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S. or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or
Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same).
If your shipment contains firearms, select the Direct Signature Required Delivery Signature Option or Adult Signature Required Delivery Signature Option, depending on the requirements of your shipment. See the Delivery Signature Options section for details. Firearms shipments are not eligible for signature release, driver release or indirect delivery.
FedEx Ground cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D.
Upon presenting the package for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to FedEx Ground is required to notify FedEx Ground that the package contains a firearm. The outside of the package must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package contains a firearm.
The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law.
The shipper and recipient are required to comply with all applicable government regulations and laws, including those pertaining to labeling. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can provide assistance.
FedEx Ground will transport small-arms ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Hazardous Materials section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as hazardous materials. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.
FedEx Ground will not accept for transport handguns, assembled or disassembled.


Nalioth says: At this time, you're out of luck exercising your Federal rights to ship directly to another resident of your state with FedEx - they just won't do it under their current corporate policy. UPS, however, will happily do so..

Only Federal laws are referenced here, you are responsible for knowing your own state and local laws before personally shipping or receiving firearms.

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UPS Rules Governing Firearms Shipment

Special Procedures for Shipping Firearms

Use These UPS Services for Your Firearm Shipment
Firearms will be transported only between licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, and licensed collectors, as defined in the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, law enforcement agencies of the United States or of any department or agency thereof and law enforcement agencies of any state or department agency, or political subdivision thereof, and between persons not otherwise prohibited from shipping firearms by federal, state or local law and when such shipment complies with all applicable federal, state and local laws.

You must ship your packages that contain handguns with UPS Next Day Air Early A.M.®, UPS Next Day Air®, or UPS Next Day Air Saver® services
Your packages that contain firearms will not be accepted for shipment at UPS Drop Boxes, with UPS SonicAir® service, at locations of The UPS Store or any third-party retailer, or with international services.

Follow These Packing Requirements
Your packages that contain handguns must be separated from other packages being delivered to UPS
Ammunition cannot be included in your packages that contain firearms (including handguns)

About Documentation and Labeling
When you are shipping your package that contains a firearm with UPS, you must affix a UPS label requesting an adult signature upon delivery

Getting Your Firearm Shipment to UPS
You can only ship your package that contains a firearm from UPS daily pickup accounts and through UPS Customer Centers.
When you are shipping a package that contains a handgun, you must verbally notify the UPS driver or UPS Customer Center clerk
You can use UPS daily pickup accounts to ship firearms, not including handguns, through UPS Internet Shipping, UPS On-Call PickupSM, and One-Time Pickup
Your packages that contain firearms will not be accepted for shipment at UPS Drop Boxes, with UPS SonicAir® service, at locations of The UPS Store or any third-party retailer, or with international services
See the terms and conditions in the UPS Tariff for shipping firearms




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Unlicensed persons - ATF FAQ

B. UNLICENSED PERSONS

(B1) To whom may an unlicensed person transfer firearms under the GCA? [Back]

A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his State, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may loan or rent a firearm to a resident of any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes, if he does not know or have reasonable cause to believe the person is prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms under Federal law. A person may sell or transfer a firearm to a licensee in any State. However, a firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(d), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State? [Back]

A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]

(B4) May an unlicensed person obtain ammunition from an out-of-State source? [Back]

Yes, provided he or she is not a person prohibited from possessing or receiving ammunition.

[18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n)]

(B5) Are there certain persons who cannot legally receive or possess firearms and/or ammunition? [Back]

Yes, a person who –

(1) Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year;

(2) Is a fugitive from justice;

(3) Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance;

(4) Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to a mental institution;

(5) Is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States or an alien admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa;

(6) Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;

(7) Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his or her citizenship;

(8) Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner; or

(9) Has been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence

(10) Cannot lawfully receive, possess, ship, or transport a firearm.

A person who is under indictment or information for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year cannot lawfully receive a firearm.

Such person may continue to lawfully possess firearms obtained prior to the indictment or information.

[18 U.S.C. 922(g) and (n), 27 CFR 478.32]

(B6) Do law enforcement officers who are subject to restraining orders and who receive and possess firearms for purposes of carrying out their official duties violate the law? [Back]

Not if the firearms are received and possessed for official use only.

The law prohibits persons subject to certain restraining orders from receiving, shipping, transporting or possessing firearms or ammunition. To be disabling, the restraining order must:

1. specifically restrain the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an "intimate partner" of the person (e.g., spouse);

2. be issued after a hearing of which notice was given to the person and at which the person had an opportunity to participate; and

3. include a finding that the person subject to the order represents a credible threat to the "intimate partner" or child of the "intimate partner" OR explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of force against the partner.

However, the GCA has an exception for the receipt and possession of firearms and ammunition on behalf of a Federal or State agency. Therefore, the GCA does not prohibit a law enforcement officer under a restraining order from receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition for use in performing official duties. Possession of the firearm for official purposes while off duty would be lawful if such possession is required or authorized by law or by official departmental policy. An officer subject to a disabling restraining order would violate the law if the officer received or possessed a firearm or ammunition for other than official use. (See Question Q13 on officers’ receipt and possession of firearms and ammunition after a conviction of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. The government exception does not apply to such convictions.)

[18 U.S.C. 921(a)(32), 922(g)(8) and 925(a)(1)]

(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?[Back]

A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.

[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]

A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

Only Federal laws are referenced here, you are responsible for knowing your own state and local laws before personally shipping or receiving firearms.

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(B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity? [Back]

Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.

(B10) May a person who is relocating out of State move firearms with other household goods? [Back]

Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence.

Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31]

(B11) What constitutes residency in a State? [Back]

The State of residence is the State in which an individual is present; the individual also must have an intention of making a home in that State. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty is a resident of the State in which his or her permanent duty station is located. If a member of the Armed Forces maintains a home in one State and the member’s permanent duty station is in a nearby State to which he or she commutes each day, then the member has two States of residence and may purchase a firearm in either the State where the duty station is located or the State where the home is maintained. An alien who is legally in the United States is considered to be a resident of a State only if the alien is residing in that State and has resided in that State continuously for a period of at least 90 days prior to the date of sale of the firearm. See also Item 5, ”Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

[18 U.S.C. 921(b), 922(a) (3), and 922(b)(3), 27 CFR 478.11]

(B12) May a person (who is not an alien) who resides in one State and owns property in another State purchase a handgun in either State? [Back]

If a person maintains a home in 2 States and resides in both States for certain periods of the year, he or she may, during the period of time the person actually resides in a particular State, purchase a handgun in that State. However, simply owning property in another State does not qualify the person to purchase a handgun in that State.

[27 CFR 478.11]

(B13) May aliens legally in the United States buy firearms?[Back]

An alien legally in the U.S. may acquire firearms if he has a State of residence. An alien has a State of residence only if he is residing in that State and has resided in a State continuously for at least 90 days prior to the purchase. An alien acquiring firearms from a licensee is required to prove both his identity, by presenting a government-issued photo identification, and his residency with substantiating documentation showing that he has resided in the State continuously for the 90-day period prior to the purchase. Examples of qualifying documentation to prove residency include: utility bills, lease agreements, credit card statements, and pay stubs from the purchaser’s place of employment, if such documents include residential addresses.

See also Item 5, ”Sales to Aliens in the United States,” in the General Information section of this publication.

[18 U.S.C. 921, 922(b)(3), (d) and (g), 27 CFR 478.11 and 478.99(a)]



(B14) May a parent or guardian purchase firearms or ammunition as a gift for a juvenile (less than 18 years of age)? [Back]

Yes. However, possession of handguns by juveniles (less than 18 years of age) is generally unlawful. Juveniles generally may only receive and possess handguns with the written permission of a parent or guardian for limited purposes, e.g., employment, ranching, farming, target practice or hunting.

[18 U.S.C. 922(x)]

(B15) Are curio or relic firearms exempt from the provisions of the GCA? [Back]

No. Curios or relics are still firearms subject to the provisions of the GCA; however, curio or relic firearms may be transferred in interstate commerce to licensed collectors or other licensees.

(B16) What record-keeping procedures should be followed when two private individuals want to engage in a firearms transaction? [Back]

When a transaction takes place between private (unlicensed) persons who reside in the same State, the Gun Control Act (GCA) does not require any record keeping. A private person may sell a firearm to another private individual in his or her State of residence and, similarly, a private individual may buy a firearm from another private person who resides in the same State. It is not necessary under Federal law for a Federal firearms licensee (FFL) to assist in the sale or transfer when the buyer and seller are "same-State" residents. Of course, the transferor/seller may not knowingly transfer a firearm to someone who falls within any of the categories of prohibited persons contained in the GCA. See 18 U.S. C. §§ 922(g) and (n). However, as stated above, there are no GCA-required records to be completed by either party to the transfer.

There may be State or local laws or regulations that govern this type of transaction. Contact State Police units or the office of your State Attorney General for information on any such requirements.

Please note that if a private person wants to obtain a firearm from a private person who resides in another State, the firearm will have to be shipped to an FFL in the buyer's State. The FFL will be responsible for record keeping. See also Question B3.

(B17) How do I obtain a classification from ATF for my "potato gun?" [Back]

Any person desiring a classification of a ”potato gun,” ”spud gun” or similar device must submit a written request (not e-mail) to the Director and include a complete and accurate description of the device, the name and address of the manufacturer or importer, the purpose for which it is intended, and such photographs, diagrams, or drawings as may be necessary to make a classification. A final determination may require physical examination of the device. Such requests for classification should be submitted to: Bureau of ATF, Firearms Technology Branch.
Only Federal laws are referenced here, you are responsible for knowing your own state and local laws before personally shipping or receiving firearms.
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Howto Order Guns over the Internet (Auctions, Forums, etc)

Howto Order Guns over the Internet (Auctions, Forums, etc)


Basics


Just gonna let all of you know about the laws concerning gun buying.

The Internet has made gun trading a lot more accessible, but we still have to follow the laws.

I am only gonna cover the Federal laws and Texas laws. If you live elsewhere, I heartily suggest you look up your local and state laws.

Federal law says you have to be 18 to buy a long gun and 21 to buy handguns and stripped receivers.

So you find a smokin' deal on GunBroker and win the auction. How do you get it into your possession?

How do I get it?


The foolproof way that everyone is comfortable with is finding a local FFL dealer who will do a transfer for you. All interstate firearm deals must go through an FFL. For INTRAstate, see below.

These dealers can be found here: GunBroker.com FFL Holder Network You may also call your local pawn shop and ask them if they do transfers and what they charge (I personally dislike this method, but ultimately it is up to the concerned parties).

A dealer may charge you a fee for receiving the transferring the firearm to you. Any fee depends on the dealer.

You contact the seller of the auction you win, and get his address or his dealers address. You go down to your chosen transfer dealer and have him send their FFL info to that person or dealer. Once they receive this, they will ship the firearm to your dealer. Depending on how it is shipped, you may be informed of any tracking numbers, etc. This is between you and the seller. When your firearm arrives, you'll visit your local FFL dealer, fill out the 4473 and pay the transfer fee. Enjoy your new acquisition.

If you are dealing with a non-licensed individual, more and more FFL holders are not wanting to give out actual copies of their FFL to private citizens. You may opt to have the your FFL give you their first 3 and last 5 number sets off their license: X - XX -xxx-xxxx-xxxx- XXXXX This will allow the seller to visit
Click to View Search Results for FFL Ez Check FFL Ez Check
for verification. The seller can print out that page and write down his weapons serial number and make and model for their records. This printout can also be taken along to the shipping agent, to verify that "Yes, it is indeed going to a licensed dealer." (not always necessary, but better to be prepared than make two trips).

No matter if you get an actual copy or just the number set, ALWAYS VERIFY WITH EZ CHECK. There are way too many idjits out there with photoshop and fancy printers.

Long guns and stripped receivers may go US Mail, UPS, FedEx, or other method. Handguns must ship overnight, except between FFL holders (this is why it is sometimes cheaper to have your handgun sent from an FFL holder.).

Intrastate sales (depends upon your local state laws - read them)


Here in Texas, it is legal for adult residents over 18 to sell/trade/give any legal firearm to each other w/o a dealer transfer. The buyer must be legally able to possess firearms. In Texas, you can own handguns at 18, you just can't buy them from an FFL dealer.
This includes shipping firearms inside Texas. You can legally ship a rifle or shotgun in the US Mail to another Texas resident legally able to own a firearm. Handguns must ship overnight (no US Mail), but can still be shipped directly to another Texan.

Please keep in mind that I am not a lawyer. All of these laws are available for viewing on the internet and have been quoted and linked on many gun forums.
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Howto Order Guns over the Internet (Auctions, Forums, etc)


Basics

Just gonna let all of you know about the laws concerning gun buying.

The Internet has made gun trading a lot more accessible, but we still have to follow the laws.

I am only gonna cover the Federal laws and Texas laws. If you live elsewhere, I heartily suggest you look up your local and state laws.

Federal law says you have to be 18 to buy a long gun and 21 to buy handguns and stripped receivers.

So you find a smokin' deal on GunBroker and win the auction. How do you get it into your possession?

How do I get it?

The foolproof way that everyone is comfortable with is finding a local FFL dealer who will do a transfer for you. All interstate firearm deals must go through an FFL. For INTRAstate, see below.

These dealers can be found here: GunBroker.com FFL Holder Network You may also call your local pawn shop and ask them if they do transfers and what they charge (I personally dislike this method, but ultimately it is up to the concerned parties).

A dealer may charge you a fee for receiving the transferring the firearm to you. Any fee depends on the dealer.

You contact the seller of the auction you win, and get his address or his dealers address. You go down to your chosen transfer dealer and have him send their FFL info to that person or dealer. Once they receive this, they will ship the firearm to your dealer. Depending on how it is shipped, you may be informed of any tracking numbers, etc. This is between you and the seller. When your firearm arrives, you'll visit your local FFL dealer, fill out the 4473 and pay the transfer fee. Enjoy your new acquisition.

If you are dealing with a non-licensed individual, more and more FFL holders are not wanting to give out actual copies of their FFL to private citizens. You may opt to have the your FFL give you their first 3 and last 5 number sets off their license: X - XX -xxx-xxxx-xxxx- XXXXX This will allow the seller to visit FFL Ez Check for verification. The seller can print out that page and write down his weapons serial number and make and model for their records. This printout can also be taken along to the shipping agent, to verify that "Yes, it is indeed going to a licensed dealer." (not always necessary, but better to be prepared than make two trips).

No matter if you get an actual copy or just the number set, ALWAYS VERIFY WITH EZ CHECK. There are way too many idjits out there with photoshop and fancy printers.

Long guns and stripped receivers may go US Mail, UPS, FedEx, or other method. Handguns must ship overnight, except between FFL holders (this is why it is sometimes cheaper to have your handgun sent from an FFL holder.).

Intrastate sales (depends upon your local state laws - read them)

Here in Texas, it is legal for adult residents over 18 to sell/trade/give any legal firearm to each other w/o a dealer transfer. The buyer must be legally able to possess firearms. In Texas, you can own handguns at 18, you just can't buy them from an FFL dealer.
This includes shipping firearms inside Texas. You can legally ship a rifle or shotgun in the US Mail to another Texas resident legally able to own a firearm. Handguns must ship overnight (no US Mail), but can still be shipped directly to another Texan.

Please keep in mind that I am not a lawyer. All of these laws are available for viewing on the internet and have been quoted and linked on many gun forums.
Just a comment on the "overnight" issue. This not a law, rather a policy of the common carriers like UPS & FedEx.
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