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Old 09-14-2006, 02:53 PM   #1
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Origin of melonite?

I was just over on another forum and one of the folks asked if SA's melonite was the same as something used by Beretta. He thought it was the same name, but this is the first I've heard of it. Is melonite an SA/Produkt proprietary finish, or did they adopt it?
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Me too I know little of this finish.
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Me too I know little of this finish.

Well, shoot....I was hoping you'd know. I'll give it a day or two and then an email to SA might be in order.
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Well, shoot....I was hoping you'd know. I'll give it a day or two and then an email to SA might be in order.
A Google didn't work??
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I should heed my own advice.

MELONITE is a thermochemical treatment for improving surface properties of metal parts. It exhibits predictable and repeatable results in the treating of low and medium carbon steels, alloy steels, stainless and austenitic steels, tool and die steels, cast and sintered iron.
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MELONITE is a thermochemical treatment for improving surface properties of metal parts. It exhibits predictable and repeatable results in the treating of low and medium carbon steels, alloy steels, stainless and austenitic steels, tool and die steels, cast and sintered iron.

I just exercised my google-fu too and found some explanations. I suppose it could very well be used by multiple manufacturers.
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http://www.burlingtoneng.com/melonite.html

I have no idea if this is similar to what SA/HS does but it seems right.
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Actually melonite is a substance most commonly found on Melonanus, a small planet-like object a few million light years west of pluto.
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Here is a thread saying S&W uses it as well.

http://www.finishing.com/324/69.shtml
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This was an interesting find.

Tennifer and Melonite are trade names for firearm finishing processes that involve salt bath nitriding; so your request is somewhat like asking for a side-by-side comparison of Coke and Pepsi, Jim. Further, the heart of the matter is probably licensing rights rather than technology. I do not have any special inside information, but I believe that Glock will not let the supplier of this finish license it to any other firearms manufacturer; therefore, other firearms manufacturers are using a similar finish but from other chemical suppliers.

Historically, firearm parts were black oxided, which is an oxidation process which is only a few millionths of an inch thick, does not offer corrosion resistance, and doesn't alter the underlying steel. Salt bath nitriding is a case hardening process that leaves a fairly thick, corrosion resistant, hard surface.
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