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thomasanelson · 09-14-2006, 12:14 PM

Speedracer211:

SA re-did the entire slide and barrel. I only had rust on those two parts, so I asked if I could just send the upper. SA agreed and the shipping was about $15. The entire process took about 3 weeks. I initially asked about them paying for the shipping and they said to save the receipt and it would depend on whether or not they felt the problem was my doing or manufacturing error. I have not pursued the $15.

thomasanelson · 02-15-2007, 05:48 PM

So, I took my XD-40 to the range today. The refinished silde and barrel look great, BUT......I had failure to feed with every round for the first 20 I tried to load. I tried putting just 2-3 rounds in the mag and sometimes they would feed. Thinking that the new coating was hampering the feeding operation, I continued to load only a few rounds per mag for the first box of 50. The FTF did improve by the 100th round to about 3 per 10rd mag. Unbelievable, this is the best that Springfield can do. Maybe I just got a lemon, but I had "0" malfunctions prior to sending it back to Springfield. Maybe it will work itself out after 500 rds or so. Maybe it won't. I am just not sure I want to "spend" the ammo to find out. Anyone else experience this?

**nsnate02** · 02-15-2007, 08:23 PM

They Koted it, which is a bake on finish. You probably have some clearance issues due to the added thickness of the finish. Lube it pretty good and rack it a lot until the action is smooth again. Maybe that will solve the issue.
I had my Hi-Power Gun-Koted and it had some similar issues until I "broke it in". After about 150 rnds it fixed itself.

shao.fu.tzer · 02-15-2007, 08:46 PM

So they went with the original finish initially, so what? They're all going to be Melonite soon. As we've seen over and over SA will gladly refinish your rusted parts. Their customer service is excellent, and one of the main reasons why I purchased my XD-45. If your gun starts to rust prematurely, send the parts in and - Hey - no problem, all fixed! Their turnaround rate is excellent. Once and if I start to experience problems with my XD-45 that I can't correct myself, I will happily send it to Springfield Armory. That's why I keep a small collection of handguns. I can use one while another is in the shop.

Shao

Apdl · 02-15-2007, 09:16 PM

nah they cant melonite here in this US they most likely will do the Kote

Nastynewt · 02-15-2007, 09:45 PM

from what i have read they cant melonite and old gun are wont

marshallmadman · 02-16-2007, 03:07 PM

This is absolutely correct. Anyone that tells you that they will be doing it in the future is out and out lying to you. Springfield offers Black-T to people who have issues with the stock finish on slides. Newsflash here fellas: When metal rubs on metal, the finish comes off. You are never going to get to a point where your carbon steel barrel does not have the finish rubbing off. Install a stainless barrel if you can't handle that fact.
The Black T looks pretty darned good and does a nice job on the slides. If you have an issue, they always try to take care of you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apdl

nah they cant melonite here in this US they most likely will do the Kote

**nsnate02** · 02-16-2007, 03:40 PM

Melonite (Tennifer) is a process done prior to the heat treating process. It can not be done retroactively. And the "original" finish you had was not Kote, it was Brunial which is inferior to Kote. You got an upgrade that will last longer and has lubing properties to assist in the function of the finish as well.

thomasanelson · 02-17-2007, 06:13 PM

I appreciate all the comment guys, but this is really now about the fact that the gun fail to feed on every other round or so. Has anyone had this problem on a SA XD refinished by the factory? If so, how many rounds did it take to start functioning properly?

tec · 02-17-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apdl

nah they cant melonite here in this US they most likely will do the Kote

Yes there are companys that can do it here in the states,

And no it can't be done now.

09-14-2006, 12:14 PM	#21
thomasanelson XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 63	Speedracer211: SA re-did the entire slide and barrel. I only had rust on those two parts, so I asked if I could just send the upper. SA agreed and the shipping was about $15. The entire process took about 3 weeks. I initially asked about them paying for the shipping and they said to save the receipt and it would depend on whether or not they felt the problem was my doing or manufacturing error. I have not pursued the $15. __________________ XD45 Last edited by thomasanelson; 09-14-2006 at 12:16 PM.

02-15-2007, 05:48 PM	#22
thomasanelson XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 63	Update So, I took my XD-40 to the range today. The refinished silde and barrel look great, BUT......I had failure to feed with every round for the first 20 I tried to load. I tried putting just 2-3 rounds in the mag and sometimes they would feed. Thinking that the new coating was hampering the feeding operation, I continued to load only a few rounds per mag for the first box of 50. The FTF did improve by the 100th round to about 3 per 10rd mag. Unbelievable, this is the best that Springfield can do. Maybe I just got a lemon, but I had "0" malfunctions prior to sending it back to Springfield. Maybe it will work itself out after 500 rds or so. Maybe it won't. I am just not sure I want to "spend" the ammo to find out. Anyone else experience this? __________________ XD45

02-15-2007, 08:23 PM	#23
nsnate02 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,076	They Koted it, which is a bake on finish. You probably have some clearance issues due to the added thickness of the finish. Lube it pretty good and rack it a lot until the action is smooth again. Maybe that will solve the issue. I had my Hi-Power Gun-Koted and it had some similar issues until I "broke it in". After about 150 rnds it fixed itself. __________________ "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." *Abraham Lincoln*

02-15-2007, 09:16 PM	#25
Apdl XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,354	nah they cant melonite here in this US they most likely will do the Kote __________________ "He took off running, and we caught him, and he just kept resisting. So we just kept whipping his ass." -HulkXD "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein If you are not part of the solution you are part of the precipitate Springfield XD-9 TOTAL COUNT 8206 Daily Carry Springfield 1911 Loaded Target 9mm Walther P22... needs bigger mag Ruger 10/22 Carbine Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 Win EBR Build in progress

02-15-2007, 09:45 PM	#26
Nastynewt XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Franklinton/Houma LA Posts: 200	from what i have read they cant melonite and old gun are wont __________________ Keith ------------------

02-15-2007, 08:46 PM	#24
shao.fu.tzer XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TX Posts: 35	So they went with the original finish initially, so what? They're all going to be Melonite soon. As we've seen over and over SA will gladly refinish your rusted parts. Their customer service is excellent, and one of the main reasons why I purchased my XD-45. If your gun starts to rust prematurely, send the parts in and - Hey - no problem, all fixed! Their turnaround rate is excellent. Once and if I start to experience problems with my XD-45 that I can't correct myself, I will happily send it to Springfield Armory. That's why I keep a small collection of handguns. I can use one while another is in the shop. Shao

02-16-2007, 03:40 PM	#28
nsnate02 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,076	Melonite (Tennifer) is a process done prior to the heat treating process. It can not be done retroactively. And the "original" finish you had was not Kote, it was Brunial which is inferior to Kote. You got an upgrade that will last longer and has lubing properties to assist in the function of the finish as well. __________________ "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." *Abraham Lincoln*

02-17-2007, 06:13 PM	#29
thomasanelson XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 63	I appreciate all the comment guys, but this is really now about the fact that the gun fail to feed on every other round or so. Has anyone had this problem on a SA XD refinished by the factory? If so, how many rounds did it take to start functioning properly? __________________ XD45

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