Confronted by stun gun? - Page 4 - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

countryrebel · 07-16-2008, 09:32 PM

I would shoot them. No different than them using some other weapon.

dave_in_delaware · 07-17-2008, 11:31 AM

I would draw down on someone w/ a stun gun (and shoot if necessary). If they're willing to stun me, then they're willing to relieve me of my carry weapon....

**leper** · 07-17-2008, 01:03 PM

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Lots of results for taze me, tase me. lol

To the OP, if someone comes at me with a weapon, they will get a weapon in response. If you have a finger on the trigger and get tazed, I imagine the gun will fire. Best to use it under your own power to prevent a ND/AD

NDB_MN · 07-17-2008, 01:15 PM

Stun gun being lethal or not, I'd be worried about what they'd do to me after I was down. Threat of violence is threat of violence, I wouldn't pause to think "are they going to use the stun gun in a non-lethal way?'

plant.one · 07-17-2008, 01:36 PM

in the CPL class that i took here in michigan, we were tought that the imment threat of danger is legal grounds to defend yourself and those around you.

We were specifically told that you dont even need to see a weapon... just simulating a weapon (finger inside a coat pocket to look like a gun barrel, moving to act like you're gonig to draw from a shoulder holster, etc) is grounds to defend yourself with lethal force. (obivously i'm simplifying the conversation, but thats the gist of it)

I would consider a taser/stun gun to be a weapon and therefore an imment threat of danger, thus i would not hesitate to draw and shoot.

Just my $0.02 USD

CyBuzz · 07-17-2008, 02:39 PM

I was the 100th voter.

slugger6 · 07-17-2008, 02:44 PM

According to the laws of Ohio "no." According to the laws of survival "yes."

sourpatch45 · 07-17-2008, 02:46 PM

its not the taser thats dangerous its him getting my gun.
the cop at my cc class said if your armed and they have a taser its the same as them having a gun since they could get yours after they taze you

Bree · 07-17-2008, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XD45-ACP

i could just see a def lawyer screamin about a stun gun being non lethal.

In most states lethality is not the threshold for justified use of deadly force. Serious bodily injury is more likely to be the threshold. You can easily argue that the use of the stun gun put you at great risk of serious bodily injury and even death since you no longer have the capacity to flee or fight. The BG's hostile intent is shown by the fact that he is assaulting you with the stun gun.

I think it is a good shoot in most places. Of course, know your state's laws thoroughly and make your own call. It is your butt on the line.

Modificationvt · 07-17-2008, 10:26 PM

"officer I thought it was a real gun"

or "If I let him stunn me, he could have gotten my gun and shot me...so I shot him to stop him from stunning me"

View Poll Results: Confronted with a stun gun, would you be justified to draw and shoot?
Yes	120	90.91%
No	12	9.09%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

07-17-2008, 11:31 AM	#32
dave_in_delaware XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 6,191	I would draw down on someone w/ a stun gun (and shoot if necessary). If they're willing to stun me, then they're willing to relieve me of my carry weapon.... __________________ Dave Daily carry = XD-9 service in a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster, a Spyderco Native, and a Streamlight Scorpion. "Everything matters... unless it's antimatter." “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.” [Delaware Constitution, Article I, § 20 Right to keep and bear arms]

07-17-2008, 01:15 PM	#34
NDB_MN XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Champlin, Minnesota Posts: 422	Stun gun being lethal or not, I'd be worried about what they'd do to me after I was down. Threat of violence is threat of violence, I wouldn't pause to think "are they going to use the stun gun in a non-lethal way?' __________________ SA-XD40 Bi-Tone: Trijicon Night Sights, Don's Guide Rod 22#, PRP Match Trigger, Magloc Mag Well, Hogue Handall grip Beretta PX4 Storm Subcompact 9mm Kimber 1911 Stainless TLE II Beretta AL391 Teknys 12ga Ruger MkII: Volquartsen Target Grips, Adjustable Sights

07-17-2008, 01:36 PM	#35
plant.one XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: N42°30.02022, W083°21.52344 MI Posts: 338	in the CPL class that i took here in michigan, we were tought that the imment threat of danger is legal grounds to defend yourself and those around you. We were specifically told that you dont even need to see a weapon... just simulating a weapon (finger inside a coat pocket to look like a gun barrel, moving to act like you're gonig to draw from a shoulder holster, etc) is grounds to defend yourself with lethal force. (obivously i'm simplifying the conversation, but thats the gist of it) I would consider a taser/stun gun to be a weapon and therefore an imment threat of danger, thus i would not hesitate to draw and shoot. Just my $0.02 USD Last edited by plant.one; 07-17-2008 at 01:39 PM.

07-17-2008, 02:39 PM	#36
CyBuzz XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 192	Whoo Hoo I was the 100th voter. __________________ CyBuzz ------- XD40 Service - XD45 Tactical - and many other Long and Short guns. One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them. --- Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

07-16-2008, 09:32 PM	#31
countryrebel XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Idaho Posts: 129	I would shoot them. No different than them using some other weapon.

07-17-2008, 01:03 PM	#33
leper XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 399	YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. Lots of results for taze me, tase me. lol To the OP, if someone comes at me with a weapon, they will get a weapon in response. If you have a finger on the trigger and get tazed, I imagine the gun will fire. Best to use it under your own power to prevent a ND/AD

07-17-2008, 02:44 PM	#37
slugger6 XDTalk 20K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,376	According to the laws of Ohio "no." According to the laws of survival "yes." __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us". - Ralph Waldo Emerson

07-17-2008, 02:46 PM	#38
sourpatch45 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,544	its not the taser thats dangerous its him getting my gun. the cop at my cc class said if your armed and they have a taser its the same as them having a gun since they could get yours after they taze you

07-17-2008, 10:26 PM	#40
Modificationvt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington Vermont Posts: 1,140	"officer I thought it was a real gun" or "If I let him stunn me, he could have gotten my gun and shot me...so I shot him to stop him from stunning me" __________________ Since it has come up a couple times I figured I would put this here, I have a spelling/reading disability. Although it may cause some humorous posts by me, I hope that people can look past it and understand that what I say is no more valid/invalid just because it may be misspelled. If for some reason you want/need more specifics feel free to send me a PM. Last edited by Modificationvt; 07-17-2008 at 10:29 PM.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode