What would you have done? poll

[kgpcr]

Originally Posted by R/T Performance

Well here we go.
I was on vacation and almost had to draw my XD.
This maybe little long so I will try to keep it short.
I was driving into a construction zone knowing the left lane was closed ahead as soon as I seen traffic start to back up.I pulled into the right lane.
After about an hour I had finally made it to the bottle neck.
As I got their was a two vehicles that had zoomed buy me in the left lane.
The first made it by in front of the car in front off me and the next with no turn signal just started crowding over so I would let him in.Note being in a {rental or my beater} I was not going to let him in without hitting me .
My wife and I where in the car windows down and as I get up next to this jeep liberty.I see to adult males and the driver Say's F$#KING A@@HOLE.
I looked over and said are you talking to me???HE Say's you herd me and I replied It's not like I haven't been sitting here for an hour and then traffic started to move.
Of course he gets right in behind me no big deal it was one lane.
Then he stays their as we had just had dinner and where going to ride go karts.About a mile down the road I make a left and then a right into the parking ramp and guess who is right on my butt.
At that time I was wondering what to do?I have sub-compact in the c-tac on my right hip shirt tucked in.
So I believe I have all options and would like to hear what everyone's thoughts are. I had made a plan right or wrong and will explain later

DUDE YOU NEED TO GET YOUR **** TOGETHER!!! WHEN I AM CARRYING I WONT MAKE COMMENTS THAT I MIGHT NORMALY MAKE. IM 6' 4 AND 275 AND A MARINE 1977-1982. I KNOW HOW TO FIGHT. WHEN I AM CARRYING I TURN INTO A PUSSY. THE MAIN THING TO REMEMBER IS ONE GUY SHOOTS ANOTHER OVER A SILLY ROAD THING IT MAKES US ALL FEEL BAD. IF YOU THINK THAT YOU CAN BE A TOUGH GUY BECAUSE YOU ARE PACKING YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR PERMIT REVOKED. THE SMART THING IS TO NOT GET INTO A FIGHT OR SITUATION LIKE THIS TO BEGIN WITH. BAD CALL MOUTHING OFF TO HIM. DOING THAT MADE IT YOUR FAULT

[Waldo]

I woulda pulled out my Road Rage book and let the mother#$^#$! have it.


No crap, I really carry one of these with me.

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[mermaidchaser]

3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY -- RUN! Just because you’re armed doesn’t necessarily mean you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your "situation awareness" skills so you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble altogether. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might be your bruised ego, which should heal with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation you risk the possibility of you or a family member being killed or suffering lifelong crippling/disfiguring physical injury, criminal liability and/or financial ruin from civil lawsuit. Flee if you can, fight only as a last resort.

fortunately her in fl, we no longer have to try to run away and turn our back on a potential threat. While I agree avoiding an incident is theabsolute best course, I WILL NOT abdicate my, or another person's, safety. You attack and you WILL get stopped. If anyone is not ready to do that thtey probably shouldn't carry a weapon anyway. Just my .02

[Cerberus]

OK, I have to agree with KGPCR. As a concealed weapon carrier, you have a duty to do whatever is possible to keep situations from escalating. In this case I think you made a very bad decision by letting this become an issue in the first place. Had this escalated to gunfire, you would have shot someone for cutting you off. I'm sorry but, that's just silly. And a great way to earn 3 hots and a cot from state corrections. Perhaps you should take some time to reassess your reasons for carrying a concealed weapon. For all of our sakes.

[erikhill]

Many times I've been stuck in traffic coming back to Waco from Dallas, mostly after Holidays where there is a lot of college traffic. I personally like to slide my F-250 over into the merging lane and cut the bastards off as they run up to get in front. Another procedure I employ is blocking the people who become impatient before they get to their exit and run past people on the shoulder. I prefer to jump out on the shoulder when the impatient driver is about 4 car lengths behind me. I love to watch em slam on the brakes or swerve. For some reason I am not worried about them hitting my big 'ol truck. They never tend to talk smack either, due to the proudly displayed NRA sticker and a few other choice firearms brands displayed on the back window. There is not excuse for bad/impatient drivers.

[kgpcr]

Originally Posted by mermaidchaser

fortunately her in fl, we no longer have to try to run away and turn our back on a potential threat. While I agree avoiding an incident is theabsolute best course, I WILL NOT abdicate my, or another person's, safety. You attack and you WILL get stopped. If anyone is not ready to do that thtey probably shouldn't carry a weapon anyway. Just my .02

ON THE STREETS I WILL RUN IF IT KEEPS ME FROM SHOOTING SOMEONE. IF I CAN DO THAT AND NOT HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE THEN GREAT. EVEN IF YOU ARE SOME HARDASS WHO WANTS TO SHOOT SOMEONE IT BETTER BE TOTALY CLEAN OR YOU WILL SPEND MEGA BUCKS ON AN ATTORNEY. YOU SHOWED HIM YES HE IS DEAD AND YOU ARE THE BIG MAN BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO PAY BIG BUCKS TO DEFEND YOURSELF. ALSO WHO THE HELL WANTS TO SHOOT SOMEONE WHO CUT HIM OFF IN A CAR. IF YOU DO WANT TO SHOOT SOMEONE FOR THAT YOU BELONG IN JAIL YOURSELF. IN MY OPINION YOU LOWERED YOURSELF TO THIER LEVEL.

[kgpcr]

Originally Posted by TeamXD

Five Rules for Concealed Carry

1. YOUR CONCEALED HANDGUN IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY. Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and life-threatening criminal actions of another.

2. KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR GUN. A criminal adversary must have, or reasonably appear to have:

A) the ability to inflict serious bodily injury (he is armed or reasonably appears to be armed with a deadly weapon),

B) the opportunity to inflict serious bodily harm (he is physically positioned to harm you with his weapon), and

C) his intent (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy -- to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these attack potential elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response.

3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY -- RUN! Just because you’re armed doesn’t necessarily mean you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your "situation awareness" skills so you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble altogether. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might be your bruised ego, which should heal with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation you risk the possibility of you or a family member being killed or suffering lifelong crippling/disfiguring physical injury, criminal liability and/or financial ruin from civil lawsuit. Flee if you can, fight only as a last resort.

4. DISPLAY YOUR GUN, GO TO JAIL. Expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional or innocent or justified the situation might seem. Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times.

You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed handgun. He or she might become alarmed and report you to police as "a man or woman with a gun." Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might be willing to maliciously embellish his or her story in attempt to have your gun seized by police or to get you arrested. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man with a gun" is going to be more credible to police than you when you're stopped because you match the suspect's description, and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession.

Before you expose your gun in public, ask yourself: "Is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least, both ability and intent, and is actively seeking the opportunity to do you great harm.

5. DON’T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU. If, despite your best efforts to the contrary, you do get into some kind of heated dispute with another person while you’re armed, never mention, imply or exhibit your gun for the purpose of intimidation or one-upmanship. You’ll simply make a bad situation worse -- for yourself (see rule #4).

PERSONALY I THINK IF YOU CANT ABIDE BY THESE RULES YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALOWED TO OWN A GUN MUCH LESS CARRY ONE. SELF RESTRAINT IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU ARE GOING TO CARRY AND OWN A GUN. IF YOU CANT DO THAT SEND YOUR GUNS TO THE COPS,

[manygunner]

Get out of car at the traffic merge point when they mouthed off, pop the trunk and waste him and his buddy with an AK ( I hate Jeeps I guess). Just kidding.

I generaly let people into a lane if there is a merge but on certain occasions (these guys do fit the occasion) I won't let people who refuse to plan ahead in. I guess in the parking lot I would have tried to go about my business and ignored them. If they tried to attack me and my wife, I would have drawn and probably fired if forced to. There being two of them (and I assume of decent physical stature) I think they would constitute a reasonable disparity of force and by attacking would show intent. I think it is reasonable to think they intended grevious bodily harm if they did attack. Also I assume they would be close enough to pose a threat as far as ooportunity and ability.

Not that I cherish the thought of defending myself. It is sad that we are all aware of such incidents and must plan for the possibility. What ever happened to civility and courtesy to ones fellow man? I blame the lack of civics in the classroom.

[manygunner]

Originally Posted by NiK

I really don't agree with that. If it's a legally traversable space, why shouldn't I go past the long line of cars and merge at the cutoff point? If people filled up both sides and merged in a civil manner at the joining point, the traffic wouldn't be backed up nearly as far.

This sort of thing happens to me all the time on my motorcycle. It's like people get angry because I have the ability to move ahead and they don't, so they get flustered and do their best to impede my progress and make the situation as dangerous as possible.

Now, as far as him talking smack, that's really not necessary. I find it amusing when people get angry in traffic, what's the point?

The problem is that people are not civil, do not like to share and god forbid take turns. I agree with R/T on this one. I see it all the time, the worst ones are the ones so wrapped up in their cel phone that they try to merge 4 lanes in 25 yards, bringing a whole highway to a screeching halt. I think you should merge in as soon as you see the sign. Anything else is an oversized ego making one think one is too important to have to wait their turn. Personally I wuld like to see cops giving tickets to people who do this, would increase the higway maintenace funds and cut our taxes.

[lYxFizzyl]

Originally Posted by NiK

If people filled up both sides and merged in a civil manner at the joining point, the traffic wouldn't be backed up nearly as far.

LoL yeah right stupid drivers dont know how to drive in a strait line how do you figure they are going to be able to merge??? I agree with R/T the guy should have just got in line like everybody else.... instead he had a bug up his @$$ and wanted to cut everybody off for one reason or another.. Im not going to say I never do it because every once in a while I will go and pass everyone in line but i will not force my way into the spot there is usually an opening while im making my way through the line of cars