Most important safety rule, to you

[XD40DucheKiller]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

I've thought it through and already answered the poll question above.

You want to begin a new poll with the gun pointed to the head question, be my guest. I don't recall that being in the original question anywhere.

Nuff said here.

bottom line is by taking THIS poll, and choosing the answer YOU chose you already decided that you would rather have a gun to your head with a trained trigger than a finger on the trigger pointed in the dirt. and i said it SEEMS like you havnt thought it through. it STILL seems that way. it does not matter if that was the "original" question...its IN THIS poll.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by XD40DucheKiller

bottom line is by taking THIS poll, and choosing the answer YOU chose you already decided that you would rather have a gun to your head with a trained trigger than a finger on the trigger pointed in the dirt. and i said it SEEMS like you havnt thought it through. it STILL seems that way. it does not matter if that was the "original" question...its IN THIS poll.

Now I'm officially done in this thread. You want to go some more here, either PM me or, as I suggested, start a new poll. I'm out of this one "DucheKiller".

[Frenchy]

Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot

It is this simple code that I live by!
The poll is subjective, and no single answer is correct in every case.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

It is this simple code that I live by!

It is for me too. Other opinions obviously vary though. No big deal with that as long as the end goal of safety is acheived, IMO.

[XD40DucheKiller]

alright frenchy. im not gonna argue with an XD talk superstar like you(not being sarcastic). i respect you and all so all im gonna say that i would think id have strong reservations with shooting with someone who is more worried about their trigger finger than where that barrel is pointing. i know that pretty much just applying one of the common rules will make a shooting session safe...but i really just thought this one was a no brainer. i guess everyone has different opinons and gun habits...ok...im done...to each his own...as long as your safe everyone!

[Frenchy]

Threat-level will determine both trigger finger placement and muzzle direction.

[mhillsing23]

I voted for muzzle control. (Which isn't to say it is the perfect answer.) The thing I don't like about the others is the scenario where a guy is taking down his gun for cleaning and he is sure that it is empty and he fires a shot when he meant to dry fire. If he has safe muzzle control, all should be OK (except a hole in his floor or wall), but if he lacks safe muzzle control then he could kill someone. Just the other day I saw a thread where there was a ND where the guy shot himself in the foot. He didn't have a his finger on the trigger, but he was messing with the hammer and activated the shot.

[Frenchy]

Let's look at two scenarios. In competition (IDPA, IPSC, etc), you obey the "180 degree" rule, and you move between stages with your finger off the trigger. Both hold equal status.
In a home defense situation, I have my finger off the trigger, and my gun held at "low port", based on a "perceived threat". Immanent threat brings my gun up and my finger on the trigger.

[cbhvac]

Originally Posted by XD40DucheKiller

im curious on how you defend that choice? your telling me youd rather have a gun pointed at someones head with a straight finger...than a finger on the trigger pointed into the dirt?

I see your point, but in keeping with the original thought of the original post..

Since the most important safety is the one between your ears, its up to the person that may be required to shoot, to evaluate the situation as its happening, and determine what level of action is needed. If you are at the range, its one thing, if you are in a SD situation, its different.
My feelings are that if you are having range time, you simply follow your 4 commandments. Period.
If you are in a possible delf defense situation, you have to be aware of so much more and try like hell to follow the continum of force (in some cases) and it gets confusing...rather, CAN get confusing. this is where training comes in, and if you are a CCW holder, and have NOT had training, its past time to get it.

[The Knight Of Light]

All 4 safety rules. No one rule can work effectively.


RULE I:ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET