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View Poll Results: Most important safety measure, to you?
Don't point at something not ready to be destroyed 82 42.49%
Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot 97 50.26%
Magazine safeties 0 0%
Ensure there are No rounds in the chamber 14 7.25%
Manual "active" safeties must be engaged 0 0%
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:32 PM   #21
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yeah but i think your choice and the poll is flawed. not putting a bullet in the gun is not a saftey rule. thats what a gun is designed for...it should be saftey rules for safe shooting and handling of the firearm, you cant say that its not safe cause its loaded.
but you cant argue the fact that a gun with no bullets in it is the least likely to kill someone.(by AD or ND) now i keep some of my guns loaded and follow all of the safe handling rules. there are also times an unloaded can can be deadly, and thats when you need it to defend yourself. my point is just if its not loaded you cant shoot it. and if im around anyone handling a gun while not involed in some sort of shooting activity i feel much safer with the chamber empty. but the great thing about the safety rules is that each one on its own is enough to prevent injury so if a person skips one of the rules no one should get hurt. and i am in no way saying that if the chamber is empty that the other rules dont apply, because that is not the case but if i want someone to follow one rule it would be the "empty chamber" but unless you follow all the rules you wont find me hanging out with you.
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:36 PM   #22
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I voted for the 1st one.

Even if you fail to follow all the other steps, nothing that isn't supposed to be destroyed will be shot unless you are pointing your gun at it.

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Old 04-08-2008, 08:37 PM   #23
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if i want someone to follow one rule it would be the "empty chamber" but unless you follow all the rules you wont find me hanging out with you.
heres what im saying...if your out shooting at the range...or with friends or people are shooting around you...then "empty chamber" is not a rule. i think its "what rule would you rather see yourself and others follow"

i do see what your saying though...its just really not applicable with shooting.
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if you were at a range and everytime someone was done shooting they pointed it at your head with a straight finger...youd really prefer that to keeping their finger on the trigger and keeping it down range or in the dirt?!?

im sorry i keep posting this argument...but seriously?! how in the world is that better saftey?
I think it's because the poll is about what rule is most important to you.

Do I want a "finger registered " weapon pointed at me? No. I do make the apparently sometimes incorrect assumption that no one I'm shooting with is that freaking stupid. Others at the range, maybe not so much. Those that are get reported. If that doesn't work, I leave.
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I think it's because the poll is about what rule is most important to you.

Do I want a "finger registered " weapon pointed at me? No. I do make the apparently sometimes incorrect assumption that no one I'm shooting with is that freaking stupid. Others at the range, maybe not so much. Those that are get reported. If that doesn't work, I leave.
and im asking...would you rather a gun with a trained finger point at your head or a finger on the trigger point in the dirt? what i was doing was questioning which really is more important to you. it seems that you havnt thought it through
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and im asking...would you rather a gun with a trained finger point at your head or a finger on the trigger point in the dirt? what i was doing was questioning which really is more important to you. it seems that you havnt thought it through
I've thought it through and already answered the poll question above.

You want to begin a new poll with the gun pointed to the head question, be my guest. I don't recall that being in the original question anywhere.

Nuff said here.
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heres what im saying...if your out shooting at the range...or with friends or people are shooting around you...then "empty chamber" is not a rule. i think its "what rule would you rather see yourself and others follow"

i do see what your saying though...its just really not applicable with shooting.
well the question wasn't specific enough i guess.

but if its between finger off trigger or pointed in a safe direction
i would go with pointed in safe direction-
because like ive said guns can just go off its very very rare but it can happen and if it does i want the gun pointed in a safe direction
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Of course all of the above and then some is correct, but in this limited format the answer is obvious. (unless you just want to argue for the sake thereof.)

Muzzle control.
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I think the first one, Don't point at anything not willing to destroy, is along the lines of keeping your finger off the trigger. Both combined, and followed to the pencil point, will prevent ALL accidental shootings of "objects not willing to be destroyed".
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