XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!
 

Go Back   XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source! > Shooter's Corner > The Polling Place
Register Forum Rules Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
XDTalk Memberships Gold Sponsorships XDTalk Sponsors XDTalk Pro Logo Shop Photo Gallery Wiki ChatBox


Welcome to the XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source! forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features.

*** Registration also removes the In-Text Advertising when viewing threads on XDTalk! ***

Also, registering gets you started on gaining access to The Trading Post and Blogs after 30 days and 100 posts! Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

View Poll Results: What do you do?
Call the police, lock your doors, stay inside. 13 37.14%
Call the police, grab a gun, go outside and order intruders down, keeping gun at low ready. 16 45.71%
Call the police, holster handgun, go outside without drawing, order intruders to the ground. 6 17.14%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-01-2008, 10:52 PM   #11
XDTalk 2K Member
 
robinsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,783
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perchjerk View Post
Ok. this was ur question! even if u go outside and they try to attack u, shouldnt u try ot go back inside and lock the door? u should prevent the use of deadly force at all cost unless absolutley necessary! maybe i just read ur post wrong and got excited about it! didnt mean to start an argument or something! My sincere apologies! every situation is unique and shouldnt be judged from the sidelines!
I don't think you're being argumentative. That's what this thread was about.

When is deadly force necessary.

Nevada state law says that I wouldn't have to go back in my house. We have no duty to retreat here.

What if I cannot retreat safely? I'm surely not turning my back on two armed thugs.
__________________
Zeroth law of thermodynamics : If you have 1 six pack of beer and your neighbor brings 4 beers over, you will each end up drinking only 5 beers.
First law of thermodynamics : There's no such thing as a free beer.
Second law of thermodynamics : Even if there was such thing as a free beer, you couldn't drink it all anyway.
Third law of thermodynamics : The colder it gets, the less beer you will have.
robinsre is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 10:52 PM   #12
XDTalk Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Metairie, LA
Posts: 69
call the police, then grab the 870P....
__________________
XD .45 ACP Service
Glock 19 9mm
R870P 12ga
Ruger SP101 .357 Mag
And too many others to list, I've been told I have a problem.
BOSS302 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:07 PM   #13
XDTalk 100 Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 438
like i said! it all depends on the situation and outsiders shouldnt judge the actions of the individuals involved! i gave my 2 cents! doesnt mean they are right!
Perchjerk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:07 PM   #14
XDTalk 15K Member
 
jtkratzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lancaster Co., PA
Posts: 17,478
Send a message via AIM to jtkratzer
Get the video camera and watch after calling the police. Report to insurance.
__________________
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
jtkratzer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:26 PM   #15
XDTalk 4K Member
 
XDConvert9mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NW Atlanta Suburbs
Posts: 4,467
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinsre View Post
I don't think you're being argumentative. That's what this thread was about.

When is deadly force necessary.

Nevada state law says that I wouldn't have to go back in my house. We have no duty to retreat here.

What if I cannot retreat safely? I'm surely not turning my back on two armed thugs.
If you have stand your ground laws then you have no duty to retreat. I think you have to look at this from both a legal and a practical standpoint.

If I understand your intentions with this poll correctly, you are trying to illustrate that there are no hard and fast rules that apply to an ever changing situation. Am I getting warm?
__________________

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
XDConvert9mm is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:33 PM   #16
XDTalk 2K Member
 
robinsre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,783
Quote:
Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm View Post

If I understand your intentions with this poll correctly, you are trying to illustrate that there are no hard and fast rules that apply to an ever changing situation. Am I getting warm?

Yep...pretty close.

That and situations can change from good to bad really fast, sometimes faster than our ability to react.

My point, in the end is, do what you need to do to protect your life. Don't get yourself into a dumb situation, but if you do, do what needs to be done to survive and worry about the legal consequences later.

As the old adage goes, I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

For the record I told my friend if it had been me I'd have done the following.

Begin videotaping through the window with my video camera. Grab the shotgun and put it by my side, and call the police.

If they'd already gotten into the car I'd wait quietly for the police to get there, I'd rather the cops have the element of surprise.

If they hadn't gotten in yet I'd yell out the window that the police were on there way, to try to avoid any damage to my vehicle.
__________________
Zeroth law of thermodynamics : If you have 1 six pack of beer and your neighbor brings 4 beers over, you will each end up drinking only 5 beers.
First law of thermodynamics : There's no such thing as a free beer.
Second law of thermodynamics : Even if there was such thing as a free beer, you couldn't drink it all anyway.
Third law of thermodynamics : The colder it gets, the less beer you will have.
robinsre is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:43 PM   #17
XDTalk 4K Member
 
XDConvert9mm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NW Atlanta Suburbs
Posts: 4,467
Quote:
Originally Posted by robinsre View Post
Yep...pretty close.

That and situations can change from good to bad really fast, sometimes faster than our ability to react.

My point, in the end is, do what you need to do to protect your life. Don't get yourself into a dumb situation, but if you do, do what needs to be done to survive and worry about the legal consequences later.

As the old adage goes, I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6.

For the record I told my friend if it had been me I'd have done the following.

Begin videotaping through the window with my video camera. Grab the shotgun and put it by my side, and call the police.

If they'd already gotten into the car I'd wait quietly for the police to get there, I'd rather the cops have the element of surprise.

If they hadn't gotten in yet I'd yell out the window that the police were on there way, to try to avoid any damage to my vehicle.
I'll +1 on most of the above. I really don't even believe I would yell in this scenario. I will add that the police can usually be counted on to arrive in about 2 mins. or less where I live though. That gives me a little different tilt on the whole situation.

I called once about a suspicious car parked on the street here in front of a vacant house for sale 2 nights in a row. They were here in less than one minute. Turned out to be a just a high school guy who was parking and going to his girlfriends on the other side of the block. Amazing. They are good here.
__________________

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
XDConvert9mm is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2008, 11:43 PM   #18
XDTalk 100 Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 438
sounds like the best thing to do! main idead is to avoid deadly force at all costs! +1 to previous post!
Perchjerk is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 12:56 AM   #19
XDTalk 100 Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Joburg Gangsters Paradise
Posts: 139
Similar situation happened awhile back close to where we live. Guy heard somebody breaking into his car,without warning he drew & shot the BG from the house.He spent a long while behind bars.If the threat is not clear & present take awhile to think it over imo.
HS-South Africa is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 01:33 AM   #20
XDTalk 3K Member
 
ArmyGuy45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mesa,AZ / Ft Carson, CO
Posts: 3,412
lol... what i would want to do.. is shoot them both.. but cant

so i would call the cops, grab my gun and a bat and keep the gun holstered and go out there with a bad.. just because they are not threating your life doesnt mean they can get away with stealing ( cause you know the cops are not going to show up on time.. there is no threat ).. so i would go out there with a bat and a gun and tell them to get on the ground and if they run.. oh well.. they run.. if they come after me.. then they are dead.. and if they lay down and wait for the cops that will be there in 30 mins.. even better!
__________________
US Army 2005 - Present
XD45 Compact - My Carry
*Suresights
*Springer Precision Trigger Kit/Bar ( needs install )

NRA Life Member
Myspace

If they take my guns, ill carry a sword!
ArmyGuy45 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:25 PM.


 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Daniel Kao DBA XDTalk & Kao Holdings