.45 Auto vs. 9mm

[speedracer211]

Well what are you trying to compare between them? Cost? energy? What are you trying to compare here.

My choice is a 10mm not factory load or a 454 if we are talking damage done. What is your need for? It is kind of like saying apple or orange.

[Mister XD]

Originally Posted by speedracer211

Well what are you trying to compare between them? Cost? energy? What are you trying to compare here.

My choice is a 10mm not factory load or a 454 if we are talking damage done. What is your need for? It is kind of like saying apple or orange.

Neither round is very suitable as a self defense round, IMHO. Both are too powerful. It's a bit overkill, you know? If it were sheer power, I'd post a poll with one option: the almighty S&W 500 and be done with it.

It's not about anything you don't want to be about. Some of us here are defensive shooters, whereas others focus on competition, and still others are just hunters. We all have our niches, and I purposely left the topic vague. You decide what you like best for whatever reason(s) you have, and vote.

It could mean what you have, what you like, what you want... whatever. I just wanted to see what people preferred, that's all

And so far, it looks like more people on this board favor the .45 Auto, myself included. I'm just collecting a statistic of what my fellow boardmates prefer.

[polykarp]

Where was that post showing the responses you get on XDTalk whenever a new thread comes up? It was something like 1 to screw in the light bulb, 14 to ect...

[Brush-Wolf-Lady]

I'll take a .40 LOL

Ok I could settle this if someone could spare a couple rounds of .45 gold dot or any other good expanding hp , and needs to be something a 1911 won't jam up on. Its a little too late for having deer necks to shoot into, but a buddy traps oddles of groundhogs and I could stack the dead groundhogs up and shoot through them.

Anyway I really liked the expansion in soft flesh with little bones and some lung tissue of the gold dot 9 fired into 4 stacked fox carcasses. I figured this would be close enough to simulate some bad guy's chest even if going through a rib or the sternum. Human ribs and sternums are not as thick as deer neck bones either, but the gold dot 9's still went through those and made a mess of the bone. Lungs and hearts are not as dense as deer neck meat either, so penetration would be good. The slug went through all 4 foxes and into the dirt btw. A .40 hp ( Hornady TAPS) went through about 12 inches of deer neck with bones and imbedded just under the last bit of meat before the ground under the necks. The 9's went 3.5 inches.

If I had some .45 hp's I could complete my study. But with a box costing 20-25.00 for 20-25 rounds, and its not even my gun...

[Brush-Wolf-Lady]

Originally Posted by Mister XD

Neither round is very suitable as a self defense round, IMHO. Both are too powerful. It's a bit overkill, you know? If it were sheer power, I'd post a poll with one option: the almighty S&W 500 and be done with it.

It's not about anything you don't want to be about. Some of us here are defensive shooters, whereas others focus on competition, and still others are just hunters. We all have our niches, and I purposely left the topic vague. You decide what you like best for whatever reason(s) you have, and vote.

It could mean what you have, what you like, what you want... whatever. I just wanted to see what people preferred, that's all

And so far, it looks like more people on this board favor the .45 Auto, myself included. I'm just collecting a statistic of what my fellow boardmates prefer.

If you want real power you need 30-06 LOL, 30-06 really makes a messy inside deer and bears, but even a 120 pound bear didn't just drop, it went into some scrub first then dropped. The deer just dropped though. I get to hear hunting stories ALOT, and some of these guys are really into ballistics. They like my handgun testing too. One guy and I show eachother our recovered bullets, and I dug a .22 out of a raccoon he killed to see how far it went from a frontal chest shot( it went through the heart, liver, part of the full stomach, through intestines and imbedded in some meat on a back leg). When I showed it to him he wanted the slug for his collection!

[ArmyGuy45]

shoot what your good with.... im good with a 45

[einheit 13]

7.62x25...when you need to shoot the guy on the other side of the car or 2 houses down and never get out of your chair....

Seriously though, I'm a 9mm fan.

[Jim B]

Realizing that 9mm is pretty much universal with exceptions in the USA and yet looking back and realizing that the US military appears to have gone from .45 to 9mm then back to .45, I bought a .45 (XD-Tactical) not so much based on inferior speed, or questionable expansion by comparison, or cost per round, because the 9mm wins out on speed/cost/and perhaps at times expansion depending on round selected performing as hoped.

The thing that swayed me was an article I read about the 9mm being a problem in Panama (as I recall). Seems like the 'double tap' became a necessity because of the aggressors continuing to press their assaults even after being hit by a round.

Last summer I was amazed while doing some target practice to watch a 4"x4" piece of lumber hit by a bullet at just under mach-3 hardly even move...just a quiver at the time of impact. I realized, wow, no wonder a deer hit by a high velocity round just stands there and looks puzzled. It's dying inside but there are very few nerve endings on internal organs compared to skin tissue and it's just standing there dying without realizing.

I want something that creates as much trauma going in as possible to get the BG's attention. Making him want a hospital more than me is a big '+' as far as I'm concerned.

J

[Reno82]

I like it for the same reasons Jim B posted.

[mcb]