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LUVMYSIGP225 · 03-21-2008, 06:05 AM

We do not have Open Carry in Ohio, only concealed. Therefore, no one ever knows. For me, no metal detector = me armed. (except alcohol establishments)

Amp · 03-21-2008, 06:07 AM

None of the gun stores or ranges around here allow you to carry on the premises. Unfortunately I have no choice but to patronize them. I always thought it was a bit hypocritical.

Hwkeye · 03-21-2008, 06:09 AM

Nope, Just carry anyways... The no carry signs for business in Kentucky are kinda funny....

1) If they HAPPEN to see that you are carrying, they can ask you to either leave or put it away... (step 1)

2) If you refuse, THEN you can get in trouble when they call the police for unlawful carry ($25 fine).

If you really push it, yes you can get in some heat, but every time I carry in a place with those signs (except govt buildings, schools, etc.) they never know and it really isnt a big deal in Kentucky.

Kinda wierd, because if you go un 20 miles to Ohio, its a criminal act.

**philman** · 03-21-2008, 06:10 AM

As I think about it more, in Ohio, if you post, there is NO exemption for the owner to carry. In Ohio, the gun store owner would be breaking the law by violating his own sign.

Hwkeye · 03-21-2008, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philman

As I think about it more, in Ohio, if you post, there is NO exemption for the owner to carry. In Ohio, the gun store owner would be breaking the law by violating his own sign.

HAHAHA! LOL

coldsolderjoint · 03-21-2008, 07:45 AM

I cant carry open or concealed legally because i live in a ****ty state, so this is kind of a mute point in terms of the poll. But I read through this thread thinking about why the owner's might have adopted such policy. I have seen plenty of idiots at gun stores.. Pointing weapons in all directions, at people, etc..

Now you throw guns in that actually ARE loaded (Rule number 1 doesn't apply here.. people are idiots).. and people fondling guns.. working the actions.. one accident and its an insurance/lawsuit nightmare waiting to happen..

The number one rule of business is to make enough money to stay in business.. We all know that most gun shops aren't making millions, they are just getting by, so 1 mishap could close your family run business of many years forever.

I'm not saying that I agree with these shops, I'm just saying maybe we have to see the other side.

bigun · 03-21-2008, 12:53 PM

Yes because concealed carry means concealed so they dont know the differance anyway.

Ishpeck · 03-21-2008, 01:25 PM

Can't carry. Don't buy. That's just how it goes.

jblakk · 03-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amp

None of the gun stores or ranges around here allow you to carry on the premises. Unfortunately I have no choice but to patronize them. I always thought it was a bit hypocritical.

In Orlando, All the gun store I go to have a sign that say 'no loaded firearms allowed beyone this point'. It may be a florida thing. Not too sure though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsolderjoint

I have seen plenty of idiots at gun stores.. Pointing weapons in all directions, at people, etc..

Now you throw guns in that actually ARE loaded (Rule number 1 doesn't apply here.. people are idiots).. and people fondling guns.. working the actions.. one accident and its an insurance/lawsuit nightmare waiting to happen..

I was thinking the same thing. You always have to make rules to the lowest common denominator, and with guns, you have to assume that a person is the average idiot. In a store that people are openly handeling firearms, it would be hard to tell if some idiot pulled out there loaded gun, or were handeling an empty gun. And it has been said a thousand times before....It only takes one mistake.

When I go to the "action shooting" event on monday, we are allowed to have full mags on our belt, and the firearm must have an empty mag well, and hammer down. You can only handle the gun in the "safe room". We can even stand outside to smoke with our gear still on.

Don't know why the rule exists here, and I think I will ask next time I'm there.

Sirius1963 · 03-21-2008, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister XD

... How many stories do we hear about accidental shootings, armed robberies, and mass murders in GUN STORES?!? Seriously people, let's get real here, please.

How about this one?
1990 Darwin Award: Wrong Time, Wrong Place

Hahaha

I have a question for Robinsre (I think it is)... don't you work with chemicals, in a lab or a pharmacy or something? Do you have your coffee cup or soda can on the bench when you are working with chemicals? Probably not a good idea, because you may get them mixed up.

Maybe (devils advocate here?) they don't allow you to bring in your firearms for a couple of reasons.
1. You set your loaded XD down (don't ask me why) to look at something, and someone else picks it up... BLAM!

2. You come in with a XD that has been used in a crime. "Hey, let me see that XD there" distract the guy, swap pistols, leave with a "clean" gun, while some poor schmoe gets a hot one.

Could be too many opportunities to get things mixed up.

Or as Tard says "or they are just bastards"

View Poll Results: Do you patronize gun stores that dont allow you to carry (leagally) on their property
YES (explain why)	14	17.95%
NO (explain why)	44	56.41%
Doesnt matter to me. (explain why)	20	25.64%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

03-21-2008, 06:05 AM	#21
LUVMYSIGP225 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Crackron, Ohio Posts: 5,573	We do not have Open Carry in Ohio, only concealed. Therefore, no one ever knows. For me, no metal detector = me armed. (except alcohol establishments) __________________ "The hippies got high, and the hippies are dead. I went hunting, and I am still Ted." - The Nuge, 2006.

03-21-2008, 06:07 AM	#22
Amp XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 53	None of the gun stores or ranges around here allow you to carry on the premises. Unfortunately I have no choice but to patronize them. I always thought it was a bit hypocritical. __________________ Springfield XD .45ACP Service Ruger Standard .22lr Pistol Taurus PT92 Stainless Steel

03-21-2008, 06:09 AM	#23
Hwkeye XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my house. Posts: 1,235	Nope, Just carry anyways... The no carry signs for business in Kentucky are kinda funny.... 1) If they HAPPEN to see that you are carrying, they can ask you to either leave or put it away... (step 1) 2) If you refuse, THEN you can get in trouble when they call the police for unlawful carry ($25 fine). If you really push it, yes you can get in some heat, but every time I carry in a place with those signs (except govt buildings, schools, etc.) they never know and it really isnt a big deal in Kentucky. Kinda wierd, because if you go un 20 miles to Ohio, its a criminal act. __________________ -Justin Glock 22 Smith and Wesson 442 1877 Remmington Single Shot 20 Guage 1899 Winchester 02-22, single shot .22 "Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." -Ephesians 6:11-12

03-21-2008, 06:10 AM	#24
philman XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Centerville, Southern, Ohio Posts: 708	As I think about it more, in Ohio, if you post, there is NO exemption for the owner to carry. In Ohio, the gun store owner would be breaking the law by violating his own sign. __________________ ***************************** XD - 9mm Subcompact XD - 9mm Service Sig Sauer Mosquito because sometimes you just have to shoot, and shoot, and shoot, and shoot.

03-21-2008, 07:45 AM	#26
coldsolderjoint XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middlesex County, NJ Posts: 114	I cant carry open or concealed legally because i live in a ****ty state, so this is kind of a mute point in terms of the poll. But I read through this thread thinking about why the owner's might have adopted such policy. I have seen plenty of idiots at gun stores.. Pointing weapons in all directions, at people, etc.. Now you throw guns in that actually ARE loaded (Rule number 1 doesn't apply here.. people are idiots).. and people fondling guns.. working the actions.. one accident and its an insurance/lawsuit nightmare waiting to happen.. The number one rule of business is to make enough money to stay in business.. We all know that most gun shops aren't making millions, they are just getting by, so 1 mishap could close your family run business of many years forever. I'm not saying that I agree with these shops, I'm just saying maybe we have to see the other side.

03-21-2008, 12:53 PM	#27
bigun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 2,705	Yes because concealed carry means concealed so they dont know the differance anyway. __________________ Springfield Loaded Stainless,Kimber Pro CDP 2, Kimber Custom Target, Beretta 92D Centurions x2, 92FS, SIG 229 SAS, CZ75, and several other weapons that give Liberals nightmares.

03-21-2008, 01:25 PM	#28
Ishpeck XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 4,019	Can't carry. Don't buy. That's just how it goes. __________________ When given a chance to issue letters of marque and reprisal against Bin Laden, Congress voted against it and instead, voted the Patriot Act into law. Tells you who they think their real enemies are. http://www.ishpeck.net/

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