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Lazarus · 02-24-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bigun

The fact that he isnt feeling alot of instability in the joint probably means that the damage to the ligaments wasnt as severe as mine was or he has better muscle tone around the knee than I did which will help compensate for the damage.

One thing I did when I hurt myself was tons of research. Upon researching I found that instability was one of the tell-tale signs of a torn ACL. I didnt have that. Another thing, when I got the MRI, the first doctor had to have the results immediately so he called the MRI person and had them fax him the results, while he was waiting he looked at the film and didnt think the damage was that bad. He got the results which said "probable ACL tear". I got a second opinion and the other doctor looked at the film and he didnt see a complete tear either so I'm thinking I didnt really tear my ACL, or its not as bad.

bigun · 02-24-2008, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

One thing I did when I hurt myself was tons of research. Upon researching I found that instability was one of the tell-tale signs of a torn ACL. I didnt have that. Another thing, when I got the MRI, the first doctor had to have the results immediately so he called the MRI person and had them fax him the results, while he was waiting he looked at the film and didnt think the damage was that bad. He got the results which said "probable ACL tear". I got a second opinion and the other doctor looked at the film and he didnt see a complete tear either so I'm thinking I didnt really tear my ACL, or its not as bad.

The choice is yours but maybe continued rehab will do more to bring it back to full strength than surgery.

aiformula · 02-25-2008, 07:33 AM

I've never been afraid of a knife and have several surgical scars to prove it. Generally speaking, joint damage like that I think should do just what you did. You tried the PT bit, it didn't work as well as hoped, and there is still damage in there. Go ahead and get the damage repaired to the best of the ability of the doc's today. It is more to stop future degradation than anything else. FWIW, I had my knee scoped in 84 and was one of the early scope patients in Ohio. I was back on my feet in 48 hrs w/ the aid of crutches and tossed the crutches in under a week. I'd had a small tear in ACL in a wrestling match, and some cleaned up some other damage from having been hit by a baseball that came inside at around 85mph several years before. You may only play at 90% of your pre injury level for the rest of your life, but that's better than watching it degrade over time.

Lazarus · 02-25-2008, 08:31 AM

Thanks Tony.

StrykerDM · 02-25-2008, 03:02 PM

hmmm...if you didn't completely tear the ACL I'm not sure how that changes things...I saw my MRI and it was completely torn off and curled in on itself...

Lazarus · 02-25-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerDM

hmmm...if you didn't completely tear the ACL I'm not sure how that changes things...I saw my MRI and it was completely torn off and curled in on itself...

How could you tell what was what on those films?

**Majk** · 02-27-2008, 09:12 PM

Laz I had almost the exact same injury except I didn't tear my acl.

I tried pt and ended up with the surgery and was glad once it was done. There was no way I was going to get better with pt. Sometimes surgery is the only and best thing to do. Surgery isn't always the worst option.

Good luck. I did get a cool little video when they fixed my patellar and mcl.

prostate05 · 02-27-2008, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

Yea I think I just need to get this done. Ask your dad's friend if you get a chance, if hes heard of harvesting your opposite injured knee for the graft. I've heard of this being done and that you actually recover faster.

I'm not sure he understands what you mean... He was a little confused with your question. Maybe if you could explain a little more?

StrykerDM · 02-27-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazarus

How could you tell what was what on those films?

doc pointed it out and said "see this? it shouldn't look like that, it should look like an X"

scooterj · 02-29-2008, 10:11 AM

Ligaments aren't like muscles, they don't heal.

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02-25-2008, 07:33 AM	#33
aiformula XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sw ohio Posts: 3,131	I've never been afraid of a knife and have several surgical scars to prove it. Generally speaking, joint damage like that I think should do just what you did. You tried the PT bit, it didn't work as well as hoped, and there is still damage in there. Go ahead and get the damage repaired to the best of the ability of the doc's today. It is more to stop future degradation than anything else. FWIW, I had my knee scoped in 84 and was one of the early scope patients in Ohio. I was back on my feet in 48 hrs w/ the aid of crutches and tossed the crutches in under a week. I'd had a small tear in ACL in a wrestling match, and some cleaned up some other damage from having been hit by a baseball that came inside at around 85mph several years before. You may only play at 90% of your pre injury level for the rest of your life, but that's better than watching it degrade over time. __________________ Tony Obama '08... change we can bereave in. Guns are like orgasms.......you just can't have enough good ones!

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Lazarus XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,037	Thanks Tony. __________________ You never know what you'll miss until its gone.

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Majk XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 2,750	Laz I had almost the exact same injury except I didn't tear my acl. I tried pt and ended up with the surgery and was glad once it was done. There was no way I was going to get better with pt. Sometimes surgery is the only and best thing to do. Surgery isn't always the worst option. Good luck. I did get a cool little video when they fixed my patellar and mcl. __________________ --------------------------------------------------------- majkthreads Psalm 28:7 "The Lord is my strength and shield; my heart trusts in Him, and I am helped."

02-29-2008, 10:11 AM	#40
scooterj XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: LaPlace, LA Posts: 184	Ligaments aren't like muscles, they don't heal.

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