What do you think is causing the recent rash of public shootings? (Potentially PV) - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

robinsre · 12-09-2007, 10:32 PM

So here it is.

What do you think the contributing factors are to the recent rash of school/mall/church shootings?

I know the media is going to pin it on the availability of guns. I don't agree with that at all, but I'm interested in the consensus opinion here.

- Ryan

chrisxd45t · 12-09-2007, 10:52 PM

I guess I'm the first "other."
I would say it's bad parenting with a mentally weak and emotionally unstable child + media coverage.
Not that having news coverage of such events is wrong, but it's how they cover it. It's too ratings based. I don't think it's the news anchors themselves, but rather the networks.

Also, I don't believe that knowing the majority of the citizens walk around unarmed affects their decision to take human lives, they've resolved to end their own lives; or at least know that their death in this situation would be inevitable anyway. It does matter greatly to us as potential victims of these people in how quickly a situation is ended, or better averted, and how many deaths can be prevented in doing so.

I'll think more on this.

**XDAndMe** · 12-09-2007, 10:56 PM

socially retarded kids + insufficient parental support

I believe the former is also a by-product of the latter.

HARD HEART · 12-09-2007, 11:35 PM

Prozack

wasajco · 12-10-2007, 04:10 AM

Other: Man's inherent evil, do good humanist fools that think "laws" protect, cowardice on the part of people asking "permission" to protect their lives

,and obedience to unconstitutional laws that command folks to disarm in certain places, which we now know are "victim disarmament zones". Our founders would laugh at the capons that now call themselves men and yet cower behind their "protectors" who they have given the power of life and death over them. The founders knew, to a man, that God was their protector, not my opinion, read their writings. Yeah, they where weak, delusional Christians who needed a crutch. Even Franklin, who wasn't a Christian asked for prayer when the Constitutional Convention was being written in Philadelphia for God's help.

**jalley** · 12-10-2007, 06:16 AM

I'd say it is a combination of all of the above.

**jalley** · 12-10-2007, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARD HEART

Prozack

Youre joking, right?

So Flo · 12-10-2007, 06:41 AM

I voted "Other" because I believe it is a fair combination of all EXCEPT for the 'availability of guns' line...

Kids that have not been parented are truly a problem in society these days.

The media does us no favors in their coverage of this...guns are tools people! It is the madman pulling the trigger that is the one causing that tool to work...figure it out, dammit...(tools, they're tools themselves...) (Rant off)...where's my coffee!

Fish609 · 12-10-2007, 07:47 AM

I picked Media coverage and Parenting.

I think parenting probably plays the biggest role.

Availiability and gaming may play a small part, much like all the choices, but I think Media and Parent are the major ones.

grahamstein · 12-10-2007, 07:54 AM

Media coverage definately plays the biggest role. After that, it comes down to a lack of parenting, and even then it seems these parents do it wrong. When nothing is ever your fault, then you are free to do anything, like murder a dozen or so people.

View Poll Results: What are the main contributing factors to recent shootings?
Media coverage of the shootings.	42	35.29%
Availability of firearms.	3	2.52%
Breakdown of parenting structure and removal of parental authority.	79	66.39%
Prevalence of unrestricted violence in video games and movies.	13	10.92%
Lack of an armed populace.	47	39.50%
Other : Please explain.	21	17.65%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 119. You may not vote on this poll

12-09-2007, 10:32 PM	#1
robinsre XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,686	What do you think is causing the recent rash of public shootings? (Potentially PV) So here it is. What do you think the contributing factors are to the recent rash of school/mall/church shootings? I know the media is going to pin it on the availability of guns. I don't agree with that at all, but I'm interested in the consensus opinion here. - Ryan __________________ Zeroth law of thermodynamics : If you have 1 six pack of beer and your neighbor brings 4 beers over, you will each end up drinking only 5 beers. First law of thermodynamics : There's no such thing as a free beer. Second law of thermodynamics : Even if there was such thing as a free beer, you couldn't drink it all anyway. Third law of thermodynamics : The colder it gets, the less beer you will have.

12-09-2007, 10:52 PM	#2
chrisxd45t XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Monterey/San Jose California Posts: 1,203	I guess I'm the first "other." I would say it's bad parenting with a mentally weak and emotionally unstable child + media coverage. Not that having news coverage of such events is wrong, but it's how they cover it. It's too ratings based. I don't think it's the news anchors themselves, but rather the networks. Also, I don't believe that knowing the majority of the citizens walk around unarmed affects their decision to take human lives, they've resolved to end their own lives; or at least know that their death in this situation would be inevitable anyway. It does matter greatly to us as potential victims of these people in how quickly a situation is ended, or better averted, and how many deaths can be prevented in doing so. I'll think more on this. __________________ LEGALIZE FREEDOM Last edited by chrisxd45t : 12-09-2007 at 11:16 PM.

12-10-2007, 04:10 AM	#5
wasajco XDTalk Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NE PA Posts: 64	Other: Man's inherent evil, do good humanist fools that think "laws" protect, cowardice on the part of people asking "permission" to protect their lives,and obedience to unconstitutional laws that command folks to disarm in certain places, which we now know are "victim disarmament zones". Our founders would laugh at the capons that now call themselves men and yet cower behind their "protectors" who they have given the power of life and death over them. The founders knew, to a man, that God was their protector, not my opinion, read their writings. Yeah, they where weak, delusional Christians who needed a crutch. Even Franklin, who wasn't a Christian asked for prayer when the Constitutional Convention was being written in Philadelphia for God's help.

12-10-2007, 06:16 AM	#6
jalley XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: WV Posts: 1,409	I'd say it is a combination of all of the above. __________________ HS2000 Gen 1, HS2000 Gen 2 sc xd 9mm service xd 45ACP, service xd 9mm tactical xd 45ACP

12-09-2007, 10:56 PM	#3
XDAndMe XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA, USA Posts: 3,402	socially retarded kids + insufficient parental support I believe the former is also a by-product of the latter.

12-09-2007, 11:35 PM	#4
HARD HEART XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23	Prozack

12-10-2007, 06:41 AM	#8
So Flo XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Wellington, Florida Posts: 11,433	I voted "Other" because I believe it is a fair combination of all EXCEPT for the 'availability of guns' line... Kids that have not been parented are truly a problem in society these days. The media does us no favors in their coverage of this...guns are tools people! It is the madman pulling the trigger that is the one causing that tool to work...figure it out, dammit...(tools, they're tools themselves...) (Rant off)...where's my coffee! __________________ No Guns, Know Crime. Know Guns, No Crime! http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member3984.png

12-10-2007, 07:47 AM	#9
Fish609 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 799	I picked Media coverage and Parenting. I think parenting probably plays the biggest role. Availiability and gaming may play a small part, much like all the choices, but I think Media and Parent are the major ones.

12-10-2007, 07:54 AM	#10
grahamstein XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Nyack, NY Posts: 649	Media coverage definately plays the biggest role. After that, it comes down to a lack of parenting, and even then it seems these parents do it wrong. When nothing is ever your fault, then you are free to do anything, like murder a dozen or so people. __________________ "To be Irish is to know that in the end, the world will break your heart." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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