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R/T Performance · 05-11-2005, 06:38 AM

I will do my best to post this without bias.
Monday night 2 Ionia county sheriffs @ 11:50 pm .Went to serve a bench warrant for failure to appear on a misdemeanor offense drunk driving.For Zach Bletz They knocked on the back door {This is in the sticks a farm house}Zach answered the door to 1 police officer then another stepped out from the corner.The officers then realized he had slippers on and told him to go in the house and get shoes.He urged them to stay out side they didn't have a warrant to go in and did any how.as he walked in he was poked in the back both officers had their guns drawn.So of course his dog started barking{good dog}and They told him to shut it up.
Then his Father came out of his bedroom with a 45 pistol.Seeing two men with flashlights and weapons drawn.This is where the story gets fuzzy they where about 6 feet appear .According to the son the officer just fired.according to police rep. they told him"Drop the weapon"twice then fired.approx.6 round one struck his right stomach and nearly passed completely threw.He bled to death.
After the shots where fired his mother came to the kitchen and turned the lights on and was forced to the ground and placed in a cop car.

A side Note Fred Bletz was 56 year old Vietnam vet.
Sorry for the run ons

willbond · 05-11-2005, 06:53 AM

Zach should have gone to court. Warrants get served when people don't. If a Sheriff's Deputy had been shot it would have been Zach's fault as well. And "They didn't have a Warrant to go in"? WTF? They were doing him a courtesy not to stuff him in the car barefoot. Hell yes they followed him in, to make sure he didn't go out the window, or go fetch a shotgun.

Sorry, but I'm extremely biased on this particular subject.

bd · 05-11-2005, 06:58 AM

I agree Willbond.

But

Is serving a bench warrant at 11:50 pm for a misdomeanor DWI in the sticks a common police procedure?

bd

R/T Performance · 05-11-2005, 07:03 AM

Sorry forgot to add .The son was a local night club DJ was suppose to be they reason why they where their so late{note bars don't close till 2 am here}
Also I would like to thank all armed forces for serving our Country
They often go un appreciated

attackrott · 05-11-2005, 07:09 AM

You got any URL's for this story. Sounds like a bad situation form the start, dark, to men back door with guns. Crap

At first by reading the title I thought it was awakend and they were in the house. Sorry if it was dark in my house and I saw a person and a gun, I am shooting. I would hope an officer would not come into my house with out making every darn effort to inform me of it.

I hope the cops identified themselves properly before firing.

Would like to read some articles on this case though. A lot of gaps.

aiformula · 05-11-2005, 07:13 AM

warrants can be and are served 24/7. A few officers I know who work graveyard will get together w/ detectives once every few months and do a warrant sweep because if you find out where they are staying, it's easy to get them at night.

As to the officers entering the dwelling, once they have engaged teh suspect, they may enter the dwelling to observe the suspect to make sure he/she is not arming themselves or attempting to flee through another exit.

As with all situations like this though, there is inevitably going to be 3 sides to the story... the cops, the perps, and the truth.

R/T Performance · 05-11-2005, 07:22 AM

If you do a google search" Fred Bletz shooting" you will fing a ton of links from all the local stations also look at the Grand Rapids press
I live in a tiny town 2 bars 3 gas stations little grocery store.The drug store is even closing up till two years ago they where the only liquor store before they sold their license
http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicl...2529296290.xml
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.a...2&nav=0RcdZUxW
http://www.sentinel-standard.com/art...ews/01news.txt
http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/in...1088210400.xml

ampleworks · 05-11-2005, 07:36 AM

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/in...8388136550.xml

SARANAC -- The Ionia County officers had already arrested Zachary Bletz on a warrant and let him go back inside to put on his shoes when they were confronted by his gun-toting father, Ionia County Sheriff Dwain Dennis confirmed today.

I love media bias

LEO or not, I wake up in the night, someone is in my house, they'll be stareing down the barrel of something. If they were armed, they best had hope they identify themselves before I start shooting.

The warrant was issued March 7, why'd it take them nearly two months to serve it, if people are "easy to catch" at night?

Something smells like cat food here.

R/T Performance · 05-11-2005, 07:39 AM

If you see the side story about Chuck Prins.He lived about 3/4 of a mile from me.I new him and the township and police always harassed him about his property .blight ordinance so he fenced his yard but the fence was to tall.That was a 3 year battle then a poor cop {real prick}stopped him to arrest him on his way to work and he opened fire with an auto rifle.
The police say he committed suicide later one gun shot to the head.But he also had four shoots threw his body?

R/T Performance · 05-11-2005, 07:42 AM

The more I read the angrier I get just isn't right.

View Poll Results: You are awakend buy you dog a midnight and find two man with flash lights and guns
Open fire at first sight	27	32.14%
Turn lights on	14	16.67%
Drop your weapon at their request	3	3.57%
Stay in your bedroom and call police	38	45.24%
Cry or climb out window and run away	2	2.38%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

05-11-2005, 06:38 AM	#1
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	Shooting in my little town with poll I will do my best to post this without bias. Monday night 2 Ionia county sheriffs @ 11:50 pm .Went to serve a bench warrant for failure to appear on a misdemeanor offense drunk driving.For Zach Bletz They knocked on the back door {This is in the sticks a farm house}Zach answered the door to 1 police officer then another stepped out from the corner.The officers then realized he had slippers on and told him to go in the house and get shoes.He urged them to stay out side they didn't have a warrant to go in and did any how.as he walked in he was poked in the back both officers had their guns drawn.So of course his dog started barking{good dog}and They told him to shut it up. Then his Father came out of his bedroom with a 45 pistol.Seeing two men with flashlights and weapons drawn.This is where the story gets fuzzy they where about 6 feet appear .According to the son the officer just fired.according to police rep. they told him"Drop the weapon"twice then fired.approx.6 round one struck his right stomach and nearly passed completely threw.He bled to death. After the shots where fired his mother came to the kitchen and turned the lights on and was forced to the ground and placed in a cop car. A side Note Fred Bletz was 56 year old Vietnam vet. Sorry for the run ons __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

05-11-2005, 06:53 AM	#2
willbond XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: OKC Posts: 547	Zach should have gone to court. Warrants get served when people don't. If a Sheriff's Deputy had been shot it would have been Zach's fault as well. And "They didn't have a Warrant to go in"? WTF? They were doing him a courtesy not to stuff him in the car barefoot. Hell yes they followed him in, to make sure he didn't go out the window, or go fetch a shotgun. Sorry, but I'm extremely biased on this particular subject. __________________ XD357 2 Pairs of Cuffs 2 Cans of O.C. Spray Minivan w/remote activated side door. 12 year old son with Red Belt in Tae Kwon Do 12 year old XTreme Duty Shih Tzu with skin condition

05-11-2005, 07:03 AM	#4
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	Sorry forgot to add .The son was a local night club DJ was suppose to be they reason why they where their so late{note bars don't close till 2 am here} Also I would like to thank all armed forces for serving our Country They often go un appreciated __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

05-11-2005, 07:13 AM	#6
aiformula XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sw ohio Posts: 3,087	warrants can be and are served 24/7. A few officers I know who work graveyard will get together w/ detectives once every few months and do a warrant sweep because if you find out where they are staying, it's easy to get them at night. As to the officers entering the dwelling, once they have engaged teh suspect, they may enter the dwelling to observe the suspect to make sure he/she is not arming themselves or attempting to flee through another exit. As with all situations like this though, there is inevitably going to be 3 sides to the story... the cops, the perps, and the truth. __________________ Tony Obama '08... change we can bereave in. Guns are like orgasms.......you just can't have enough good ones!

05-11-2005, 06:58 AM	#3
bd XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,864	I agree Willbond. But Is serving a bench warrant at 11:50 pm for a misdomeanor DWI in the sticks a common police procedure? bd

05-11-2005, 07:09 AM	#5
attackrott XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 382	You got any URL's for this story. Sounds like a bad situation form the start, dark, to men back door with guns. Crap At first by reading the title I thought it was awakend and they were in the house. Sorry if it was dark in my house and I saw a person and a gun, I am shooting. I would hope an officer would not come into my house with out making every darn effort to inform me of it. I hope the cops identified themselves properly before firing. Would like to read some articles on this case though. A lot of gaps.

05-11-2005, 07:22 AM	#7
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	If you do a google search" Fred Bletz shooting" you will fing a ton of links from all the local stations also look at the Grand Rapids press I live in a tiny town 2 bars 3 gas stations little grocery store.The drug store is even closing up till two years ago they where the only liquor store before they sold their license http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicl...2529296290.xml http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.a...2&nav=0RcdZUxW http://www.sentinel-standard.com/art...ews/01news.txt http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/in...1088210400.xml __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

05-11-2005, 07:36 AM	#8
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,159	http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/in...8388136550.xml SARANAC -- The Ionia County officers had already arrested Zachary Bletz on a warrant and let him go back inside to put on his shoes when they were confronted by his gun-toting father, Ionia County Sheriff Dwain Dennis confirmed today. I love media bias LEO or not, I wake up in the night, someone is in my house, they'll be stareing down the barrel of something. If they were armed, they best had hope they identify themselves before I start shooting. The warrant was issued March 7, why'd it take them nearly two months to serve it, if people are "easy to catch" at night? Something smells like cat food here. __________________ *Ampleworks*

05-11-2005, 07:39 AM	#9
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	If you see the side story about Chuck Prins.He lived about 3/4 of a mile from me.I new him and the township and police always harassed him about his property .blight ordinance so he fenced his yard but the fence was to tall.That was a 3 year battle then a poor cop {real prick}stopped him to arrest him on his way to work and he opened fire with an auto rifle. The police say he committed suicide later one gun shot to the head.But he also had four shoots threw his body? __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

05-11-2005, 07:42 AM	#10
R/T Performance XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Saranac Mi Posts: 3,491	The more I read the angrier I get just isn't right. __________________ XD-9 Tacticle Tru-glow tfo's 3# Canyoncreek trigger Dillon Rl550 1911 Springfield Champion loaded 45 acp Kahr p40 Watch me shoot http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32660329653237

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