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devilslayer · 10-09-2007, 12:40 PM

just wondered where people stood on this issue.

CharlieHo · 10-09-2007, 12:44 PM

They've run their course. They are more of a hinderance than anything else in today's common vocational arena.

Apdl · 10-09-2007, 12:47 PM

agreed they are like a second government with their own taxes and too much power

niteranger68 · 10-09-2007, 12:53 PM

As someone who had their life threatened by a union member, I have no use for them.

FYI - I was about 8 years old at the time. My father was a manager working for a well known company during a strike. The thug called him at the office and told him he would find my head (and my Mom's) floating in the bathtub when he got home.

rockerz71 · 10-09-2007, 01:01 PM

With marketable skills past experience, I can't imagine why I would need a union to help me get the compensation I deserve.

devilslayer · 10-09-2007, 01:02 PM

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=P

89,955,321 donated to the democratic party in 2002 when "all" donations were able to be counted .
$57,645,938 in 2006 when soft money contributions could not.

Reeek · 10-09-2007, 01:38 PM

Their cost (in all respects, not just dues) is not near what they are worth.

Tard · 10-09-2007, 03:48 PM

They are more corrupt than our own government which is REALLY saying something.

**einheit 13** · 10-09-2007, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tard

They are more corrupt than our own government which is REALLY saying something.

Not all of them....who has your back if you lose your job to immigrant labor?? Who guarantees you top pay after you complete a training course?? Who helps off set the high insurance rates?? Who guarantees that when the company profits, so do you?? Don't shun all of the labor unions, just the ones up north.....

Noah Mercy · 10-09-2007, 06:46 PM

My Great Grandfather helped form the miners union early last century. Before that, the mines were deathtraps and miners worked for next to nothing.

It was a necessity then (collective bargaining to ensure safe working conditions and a fair wage).

With the advent of OSHA, the minimum wage, and the natural progression of capatilism, unions are no longer needed and simply make it difficult to get rid of incompetent employees and force businesses to outsource and ship jobs to union-free countries to stay competitive.

JMO and worth exactly whatcha' paid fer it...

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10-09-2007, 12:40 PM	#1
devilslayer XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NC Posts: 2,069	do we need unions? just wondered where people stood on this issue.

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CharlieHo XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 514	They've run their course. They are more of a hinderance than anything else in today's common vocational arena. __________________ "The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at 90 MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20." - Sam Cohen, inventor of the Neutron Bomb

10-09-2007, 12:47 PM	#3
Apdl XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 2,354	agreed they are like a second government with their own taxes and too much power __________________ "He took off running, and we caught him, and he just kept resisting. So we just kept whipping his ass." -HulkXD "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." -Albert Einstein If you are not part of the solution you are part of the precipitate Springfield XD-9 TOTAL COUNT 8206 Daily Carry Springfield 1911 Loaded Target 9mm Walther P22... needs bigger mag Ruger 10/22 Carbine Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 Win EBR Build in progress

10-09-2007, 12:53 PM	#4
niteranger68 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NC Posts: 286	As someone who had their life threatened by a union member, I have no use for them. FYI - I was about 8 years old at the time. My father was a manager working for a well known company during a strike. The thug called him at the office and told him he would find my head (and my Mom's) floating in the bathtub when he got home. __________________ Niteranger68 Springfield XD40 Service Bersa Thunder UC-SS 9mm Beretta PX4 9mm (F) Mossberg 500 Tactical 12 Ga Ruger 10/22 SS Titan Tiger .38 Cal NRA/GOA

10-09-2007, 01:01 PM	#5
rockerz71 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Norcross, GA Posts: 3,385	With marketable skills past experience, I can't imagine why I would need a union to help me get the compensation I deserve. __________________ Luke GeorgiaCarry.org Member

10-09-2007, 01:02 PM	#6
devilslayer XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NC Posts: 2,069	http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.asp?Ind=P 89,955,321 donated to the democratic party in 2002 when "all" donations were able to be counted . $57,645,938 in 2006 when soft money contributions could not.

10-09-2007, 01:38 PM	#7
Reeek XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,781	Their cost (in all respects, not just dues) is not near what they are worth. __________________ U.S Navy Veteran - CTT - Naval Security Group Guns: XD9SC with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights CZ P-01 with Meprolights - green/green EAA Witness (Tangfolio) Elite Match .45 Taurus PT1911 with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights Kel-Tec P3AT Fulton Armory FAR-15 Predator, 24" SS 1x12 Barrel w/Mueller TAC II Savage 93R17 BVSS .17 HMR Remington 870 18" 6+1 w/Choate Mark 6

10-09-2007, 03:48 PM	#8
Tard XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Machias, WA Posts: 3,025	They are more corrupt than our own government which is REALLY saying something. __________________ The good times have been used up.

10-09-2007, 06:46 PM	#10
Noah Mercy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Sheridan, Wyoming Posts: 276	My Great Grandfather helped form the miners union early last century. Before that, the mines were deathtraps and miners worked for next to nothing. It was a necessity then (collective bargaining to ensure safe working conditions and a fair wage). With the advent of OSHA, the minimum wage, and the natural progression of capatilism, unions are no longer needed and simply make it difficult to get rid of incompetent employees and force businesses to outsource and ship jobs to union-free countries to stay competitive. JMO and worth exactly whatcha' paid fer it... __________________ I may be fat, hairy, and ugly...BUT AT LEAST I SMELL BAD!

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