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robinsre · 03-06-2007, 02:45 PM

New question...this one may be a little more metaphysical for some of you.

For those of you who believe in a soul you can relate to death occuring when the metaphysical soul leaves the physical body.

For those of you who do not believe in a soul you can relate to death as legal termination of life, I.E. your next of kin or other willed individuals now have entitlement to whatever you previously owned.

- Ryan

hellagerms · 03-06-2007, 02:56 PM

The cessation of autonomic CNS function.

hotpig · 03-06-2007, 03:10 PM

+1

lora84 · 03-06-2007, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellagerms

The cessation of autonomic CNS function.

Correct! When the body is no longer able to adequately perfuse the tissues. Every person that has died have died from some form of shock. Of the 8 different types of shock one (or more), is responsible for their death.

Trovan · 03-06-2007, 03:15 PM

I think it is when all of the muscles finally relax and crap comes out.

03-06-2007, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trovan

I think it is when all of the muscles finally relax and crap comes out.

I must be dead. That happened to me just after lunch.

Saulnier · 03-06-2007, 04:08 PM

?Right after you see the wrong side of the muzzle flash?

nickb · 03-06-2007, 04:26 PM

Is this a trick question?

03-06-2007, 05:15 PM

Okay, my quick, Biblical answer is when the lower functions cease. In the Bible, we have the description of the "breath of life" and not the "thinking of life" (Gen. 2:7). "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Intelligence is certainly a nice thing to have and is a distintive feature of human beings, but some people come into this life unable to think on any order high enough to be considered alive by some modern standards. Does this mean they should be terminated? No.

Neither should they be unplugged if they have the sense permanently knocked out of them later in life. It is not truly permanent, if one considers the afterlife. Also, my studied opinion is that it is better not to plug such a one up in the first place if it can be avoided. Let them die naturally. That requires some thought, planning and family discussion before such an event ever occurs, though.

Talon · 03-06-2007, 05:22 PM

Right after TAP TAP comes the SPLAT.

View Poll Results: When does death occur?
When the CNS ceases all higher functions. (thought, speech)	8	16.00%
When the CNS ceases all lower functions (pulse regulation etc.)	20	40.00%
The instance varies from individual to individual.	10	20.00%
When my XD has a FTE....	12	24.00%
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03-06-2007, 02:45 PM	#1
robinsre XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 2,793	When Does Death Occur? New question...this one may be a little more metaphysical for some of you. For those of you who believe in a soul you can relate to death occuring when the metaphysical soul leaves the physical body. For those of you who do not believe in a soul you can relate to death as legal termination of life, I.E. your next of kin or other willed individuals now have entitlement to whatever you previously owned. - Ryan __________________ Zeroth law of thermodynamics : If you have 1 six pack of beer and your neighbor brings 4 beers over, you will each end up drinking only 5 beers. First law of thermodynamics : There's no such thing as a free beer. Second law of thermodynamics : Even if there was such thing as a free beer, you couldn't drink it all anyway. Third law of thermodynamics : The colder it gets, the less beer you will have.

03-06-2007, 03:15 PM	#5
Trovan XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 367	I think it is when all of the muscles finally relax and crap comes out. __________________ Za Dom Spremni cede nullis

03-06-2007, 04:08 PM	#7
Saulnier XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: TEXAS Posts: 34	?Right after you see the wrong side of the muzzle flash? __________________ "Duct Tape doesn't Rust." " 911, please hold?????"

03-06-2007, 04:26 PM	#8
nickb XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,343	Is this a trick question? __________________ No PM sent..... But the average human can travel 21 feet in just about one second.

03-06-2007, 02:56 PM	#2
hellagerms XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In orbitals Posts: 4,252	The cessation of autonomic CNS function.

03-06-2007, 03:10 PM	#3
hotpig XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SW Illinois Posts: 262	+1

03-06-2007, 05:15 PM	#9
Preacher Guest Posts: n/a	Okay, my quick, Biblical answer is when the lower functions cease. In the Bible, we have the description of the "breath of life" and not the "thinking of life" (Gen. 2:7). "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Intelligence is certainly a nice thing to have and is a distintive feature of human beings, but some people come into this life unable to think on any order high enough to be considered alive by some modern standards. Does this mean they should be terminated? No. Neither should they be unplugged if they have the sense permanently knocked out of them later in life. It is not truly permanent, if one considers the afterlife. Also, my studied opinion is that it is better not to plug such a one up in the first place if it can be avoided. Let them die naturally. That requires some thought, planning and family discussion before such an event ever occurs, though.

03-06-2007, 05:22 PM	#10
Talon XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 443	Right after TAP TAP comes the SPLAT. __________________ Take your time... Don't live too fast, Troubles will come and they will pass....

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