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I wore a hoodie, carried concealed, and walked through a neighbors yard tonight to the bar for wings and didn't get ...
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03-26-2012, 09:46 PM
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I wore a hoodie, carried concealed, and walked through a neighbors yard tonight to the bar for wings and didn't get shot... I must not have looked like I was casing the situation.
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Poor comparison. You didn't have a tea or a bag of skittles on you.
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03-26-2012, 09:46 PM
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At what point does Standing ground become TAKING GROUND ?
+ another... Zimmerman was a trigger happy fool.
Self defense or not, there was some point when Zimmerman went beyond " standing your ground" and ventured into "taking new ground"
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03-26-2012, 09:48 PM
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WHY IS THERE A SMILE IN THIS??? DID NOT USE ONE
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put a space between the : and the o from "on his knees"
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03-26-2012, 10:06 PM
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03-26-2012, 10:12 PM
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either that or the whole "trying to crack his skull like a coconut on the cement" thing.
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03-26-2012, 10:14 PM
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either that or the whole "trying to crack his skull like a coconut on the cement" thing.
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Ya, guess he should have stayed in his SUV, like 911 told him to.
"Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, and a close friend, Joe Oliver, appeared on NBC's "Today" show Monday to defend him, claiming he was not racist and that he had received a broken nose and gash on the head in the confrontation."
He's lucky! Some trigger happy idiot could have shot him!
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03-26-2012, 10:15 PM
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Trayvon Martin: George Zimmerman's account to police of the Trayvon Martin shooting. - Orlando Sentinel
From what I've read it seems justified. One teen attacking an adult can be fatal. In fact, I'd wager that if he had not acted we'd have a different body or at least one man in the hospital and a different story.
Did he go too far? Probably he could've avoided the event, but regardless by the police's own report he was being beaten badly... If I was in the same situation (fearing my life), I probably would have shot him too.
I don't think it's a race issue. I think he would've reacted the same if it was a white guy beating his head into the ground too.
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03-26-2012, 10:18 PM
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This is what I was trying to tell you earlier, but you didn't seem to be paying attention. 
See posts 44, 50, and 52.
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03-26-2012, 10:26 PM
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This is what I was trying to tell you earlier, but you didn't seem to be paying attention.
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Repeat:
"Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, and a close friend, Joe Oliver, appeared on NBC's "Today" show Monday to defend him, claiming he was not racist and that he had received a broken nose and gash on the head in the confrontation."
A broken nose and a cut on the head earns being shot to death? Really, how many dead people should there be for every fist fight that happens in this country? 
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03-26-2012, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dhardy57
Repeat:
"Zimmerman's lawyer, Craig Sonner, and a close friend, Joe Oliver, appeared on NBC's "Today" show Monday to defend him, claiming he was not racist and that he had received a broken nose and gash on the head in the confrontation."
A broken nose and a cut on the head earns being shot to death? Really, how many dead people should there be for every fist fight that happens in this country? |
Sometimes, lethal force is justified, even if the other person is a teen and unarmed.
No charges for AK man who used XD .40 in self-defense
It appears likely that Martin had a chance to walk away and make it home safely, but for some reason he chose to confront Zimmerman.
If that is the case and he did have Zimmerman on his back and smashing his head into the ground, Zimmerman has a solid case for a reasonable fear of immediate serious bodily harm or death.
Either way, I'm sure that we'll all learn more about this in the coming days.
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