XD Talk

one-eyed-fatman · 07-17-2009, 10:11 PM

If I can't take the weenie brain poll seriously how can I take the thread seriously?

**HB of CJ** · 07-17-2009, 10:15 PM

Consider it a real-world experience in civics. Guess they pick on us South Paws: I have been summoned many times and seated three. I'm 60.

I consider it my duty to see that the evidence presented by the court is fair and true and that the charged gets to present his whole case.

Also the juror in Oregon must judge the law as well as all the formentioned evidence, then use his best judgement. A pretty heady power trip.

Jury duty is supposed to "hurt". Can you imagine how many people world wide have bled and died fighting for such a right? Do Your Duty! HB of CJ

godseviltwin · 07-17-2009, 10:16 PM

if you fluf the reason, they still make you go and you don't show. around these parts they give you 6months manditory for contempty. it sucks, but suck it up and go.

iwannadie · 07-17-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by godseviltwin

if you fluf the reason, they still make you go and you don't show. around these parts they give you 6months manditory for contempty. it sucks, but suck it up and go.

I wouldn't consider Not going if they say I have to, thats not something I want to mess around with. I wouldn't lie about my reasons either, by fluf I just mean to draw out the letter to more than the brief paragraph I typed here. I would list milage, dollar amounts of cab services and all other details I could think of.

**GreenBayShooter** · 07-17-2009, 10:43 PM

I served jury duty, and it actually ended up to be quite the honor.

We did not know it during the trial, but this guy was guilty of many (16) other crimes including robbery, check forgeries and other misdemeanors.

For our case, we found him guilty of drug possession while on probation. After our verdict, the judge came in and told us we did the right thing - because of this particular case, all of the subsequent charges stuck and his sentence was greatly reinforced.

He wasn't a murderer or anything, but it felt good knowing that justice was served.

jfdavis58 · 07-17-2009, 10:54 PM

I had never been called until about 18 months ago. As a small business owner I had employees summoned several times. Still, I had no real idea of the 'hardship' of civic duty. I always just paid the employee their full wages in exchange for the court stipend and didn't give it any thought.

Well, the juror is stuck in a strange part of town searching for parking, a place to eat and a whole lot of waiting. No cell phones, no computers if they have a camera, deep pocket full body searches when entering the court and a whole lot of waiting. Should they actually be empaneled there is no fixed timetable as to when they will recess to eat or come home or just finish.

So now I pay their full wages and they keep the court stipend. My company rents them a car so theirs can be used by other family members and kept out of the downtown parking garage. They can store their cell phones in the trunk. I give them a generous meal allowance and access to company trade-outs (free meals from people with whom we do business--normally an executive perk). And as a company we see to as many family needs as practical-retrieving children from school, taking them back for after-school events, transporting to doctors appointments, sharing meals, attending to crisis and emergencies.

Jury duty is an onerous civic responsibility. I have little patience for those that shirk serving. We the people have jury duty as the last and final say in a democratic society. As a juror you have a say not only on the guilt or innocence of the accused, but of weather or not the law itself is just and fair and if it remains 'the law'.

Do the right thing.

**afmo** · 07-17-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jfdavis58

I had never been called until about 18 months ago. As a small business owner I had employees summoned several times. Still, I had no real idea of the 'hardship' of civic duty. I always just paid the employee their full wages in exchange for the court stipend and didn't give it any thought.

Well, the juror is stuck in a strange part of town searching for parking, a place to eat and a whole lot of waiting. No cell phones, no computers if they have a camera, deep pocket full body searches when entering the court and a whole lot of waiting. Should they actually be empaneled there is no fixed timetable as to when they will recess to eat or come home or just finish.

So now I pay their full wages and they keep the court stipend. My company rents them a car so theirs can be used by other family members and kept out of the downtown parking garage. They can store their cell phones in the trunk. I give them a generous meal allowance and access to company trade-outs (free meals from people with whom we do business--normally an executive perk). And as a company we see to as many family needs as practical-retrieving children from school, taking them back for after-school events, transporting to doctors appointments, sharing meals, attending to crisis and emergencies.

Jury duty is an onerous civic responsibility. I have little patience for those that shirk serving. We the people have jury duty as the last and final say in a democratic society. As a juror you have a say not only on the guilt or innocence of the accused, but of weather or not the law itself is just and fair and if it remains 'the law'.

Do the right thing.

People also shouldn't be forced to sacrifice their private duties to themselves or their families for "civic duty."

Seriously, most CA school districts don't pay their teachers their wage for performing jury duty. That means if i were forced to perform my "civic duty", anything more than a day or two and i wouldn't be able to pay my rent. So you're saying that i should put myself into financial trouble because taking a nearly 100 dollar a day pay cut to listen to some criminal sob story is my "civic duty?"

I don't think so.

xd-gunner · 07-17-2009, 11:23 PM

It is your civic duty to serve on a jury when called.

**afmo** · 07-17-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xd-gunner

It is your civic duty to serve on a jury when called.

It is your personal duty to care for you and your family.

The "compensation" is grossly lacking and if your employer doesn't offer paid jury duty time, then your "civic duty" can become a serious financial burden. No person should have to worry about not being able to paying their bills because they called up for jury duty.

**SmithErick** · 07-17-2009, 11:35 PM

I would go if you could. If you can't, make sure its a justifiable excuse and a good reason not to go. Then you would have to chance the letter.

As for me, my birthday is January 1st. I received a letter January 3rd (on my 18th birthday) stating I was summoned. That means my good ol' county sent a letter out the day after my birthday. I wrote a letter and stated I was a full time student and could not attend due to school.