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Scenario #7

This is a discussion on Scenario #7 within the The Polling Place forums, part of the Use and Training category; I'd tell "Ahab" to chill out, or something along those lines. I may call 911 because "brandishing" is against the law here in MI. I'm ...


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Old 05-31-2009, 08:56 PM   #21
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I'd tell "Ahab" to chill out, or something along those lines. I may call 911 because "brandishing" is against the law here in MI.

I'm not a boater, is "dock rage" getting to be a problem?
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:19 AM   #22
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I'm not a boater, is "dock rage" getting to be a problem?

lol... i havent been to more then about 3 different docks, but the characters there always seem to be a little suspect.

I went to one in HI and lets just say I am happy I was with a local at the time....
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:24 AM   #23
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I cannot recall the last time I seen an issue at a loading dock, but have heard about them.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:52 AM   #24
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I don't like being boxed in so I would exit the vehicle. If he crosses the 15 yard mark I would raise my weapon to the ready position and inform him that if he doesn't stop I will shoot him. If he makes it to 5 yards (just out of gaffe hook range) I would neutralize the threat.
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I don't like being boxed in so I would exit the vehicle. If he crosses the 15 yard mark I would raise my weapon to the ready position and inform him that if he doesn't stop I will shoot him. If he makes it to 5 yards (just out of gaffe hook range) I would neutralize the threat.
Sounds good to me..
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I don't like being boxed in so I would exit the vehicle. If he crosses the 15 yard mark I would raise my weapon to the ready position and inform him that if he doesn't stop I will shoot him. If he makes it to 5 yards (just out of gaffe hook range) I would neutralize the threat.
Good plan, but I would change 5 yards to 7 yards to be in line with the Tueller Drill.
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I was giving two yards to ensure that the threat would be considered imminent.
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I was giving two yards to ensure that the threat would be considered imminent.
I suppose it would look good to let him get as close as possible, but I'd prefer to not let him get that close. A person becomes a threat at about 21 feet. In this scenario, we have our gun out already, so 5 yards is probably adequate to start putting rounds on target. 21 feet is pushing it to recognize a threat, draw and shoot, though.

If you can find a range that will allow this trick, try this:

Holster your gun and stand 5 yards from a target. Have a buddy stand back to back with you, with your backs touching. Tell him to start running when he is ready. When you feel him leave, you draw and fire. Tell your buddy to stop when he hears your shot. The distance he covers will give you an idea how far away someone becomes a threat to you.

Remember if you do this, though, that people don't drop on the first shot, so based on this drill, the distance you are seeing is how far someone can cover and be on top of you as you get your first round into him.
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Nice drill but in the scenario my sidearm was at the ready position and one .45 cor-bon will take the fight right out of an assailant. Nevertheless I will try this... I live in the country so my "range" is the back 40.
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Sorry, saw your acknowledgement of the sidearm at the ready position on a re-read. CWP training when I went through placed the "duty to flee" at 7 yards but has since been revised to 12 yards due to the reasons you cited. If the situation were really happening I doubt I would allow him to get much closer than 7 yards. With my luck, the assailant would be an expert at throwing the weapon.
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