Vatican Cardinal Says Gaza Like A **** Death Camp

[afmo]

Originally Posted by DMWyatt

It's a shame that Israel has bowed to international pressure and bad press in recent history.

My dad and I frequently discuss the Israeli response to Munich and usually Margaret Thatcher's response to the hostage situation in 1980 within the same conversation. It's a shame that international politics and both Israel and Britain have degenerated into the situations they both find themselves in politically.

I'm not so sure they're gonna bow this time...

FOXNews.com - Israel and Hamas Reject U.N. Truce, Intensify Attacks - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

In Israel's first official response to the U.N. Security Council resolution, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said Israel "has never agreed to let an external body decide its right to protect the security of its citizens."

The military "will continue acting to protect Israeli citizens and will carry out the missions it was given," the statement read. The rockets fell in Israel on Friday "only prove that the U.N.'s decision is not practical and will not be kept in practice by the Palestinian murder organizations

At least someone has the balls to stand up and tell the U.N. to piss off. I wish Barry had the same backbone.

where are all the other arab nations rushing to the defense of Hamas?

[lance22]

Originally Posted by afmo

where are all the other arab nations rushing to the defense of Hamas?

Arab nations are all talk. Their Imams make fiery speeches and the plebes burn each others automobiles and burn a few effigies. That's all they do: make speeches and riot at home. They don't appear to have meaningful alliances. One gets attacked, the others just stand around and listen to their Imams new speeches and worthless fatwahs.

A very select few might go so far as martyr themselves at a wedding or restaurant but if they had the number of these that they claim, there would be 500 a day every day. If they were as good in business as they are at making colorful threats, they'd be ruling the world.

[rpsmith]

Originally Posted by afmo

yeah, cause if we'd just get rid of the military the whole world would just get along...

With a Coke and a smile, it could happen.

[rpsmith]

Newsmax.com - Hamas Reinstates Crucifixions of Christians

Hamas Reinstates Crucifixions of Christians


Friday, January 9, 2009 5:05 PM

By: Nicole Jansezian

While the world focused on Hamas militants launching rockets from Gaza at southern Israel, the terrorist organization also voted quietly to implement Islamic law in the Gaza Strip, including crucifixion of Christians, according to reports in the Arabic press.

The traditional Muslim criminal code, known as Sharia law, includes penalties such as amputation of limbs for stealing and the death penalty, including crucifixion, for actions Hamas deems detrimental to “Palestinian interests,” including collaborating with Israel.

The new law was reported on the Al-Arabiya Web site and in the London-based Saudi-owned newspaper Al-Hayat, which wrote that the implementation of Sharia law has “brought criticism and concern from human rights organizations in the Gaza Strip.”

But the media scarcely took notice when the decision was reported during the Christian holidays as fighting between Hamas and Israel escalated in late December.

“Hamas’ endorsement of nailing enemies of Islam to crosses came at the same time it renewed its jihad,” Jerusalem Post columnist Caroline Glick wrote on Dec. 26. “Here, too, Hamas wanted to make sure that Christians didn’t feel neglected as its fighters launched missiles at Jewish day care centers and schools.”

Christians are a minority in Gaza, numbering fewer than 2,000 residents among 1.6 million in the Strip. After Hamas came to power, the Islamic group began enforcing sharia law more strictly, though not officially. Christians were the first to feel the squeeze. Some Christian men felt compelled to grow beards and women donned head scarves to downplay their identities as non-Muslims.

Sharia law is implemented fully in some nations, including Iran and Saudi Arabia. When Palestinian voters elected Hamas in 2006, organization spokesman Hamed Bitawi declared: “The Quran is our constitution, Muhammad is our prophet, jihad is our path, and dying as martyrs for the sake of Allah is our biggest wish.”

Palestinian officials in Gaza denied the adoption of Islamic law. However, Palestinian Media Watch, an organization that monitors the Arab press, says the group is lying.

“Contrary to today’s denials, official Hamas leaders have proudly announced in the Hamas-run media in the last two months that this Islamic penal code was being prepared,” the media watchdog said. “Indeed, senior Hamas leaders went so far as to say that when these laws are implemented, they will have force not only in Gaza but also in the West Bank.”

Media Watch also noted that Hamas newspaper Al-Rissala reported, “The Bureau of Islamic Law is preparing a penal code in order to implement Sharia-Islamic Law.”

Hamas has financial backing from Iran, which supplies the group with rockets and weapons used to attack Israel. Despite espousing separate branches of Islam — Hamas is Sunni; Iran is Shiite — the organization shares the expressed wish of Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to wipe out Israel. The Hamas charter states: “Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”

Israel withdrew unilaterally, both residents and soldiers, from the Gaza Strip in 2005, leaving the territory entirely under Palestinian jurisdiction. Then, in a coup in 2007, Hamas took over the Gaza Strip, ousting its rival party Fatah and assassinating Fatah loyalists. Since then, rocket fire launched at Israel’s southern communities increased. In December, a six-month period of calm collapsed and led to Israel’s Operation Cast Lead, the bombings and attacks against Hamas militants in Gaza in retaliation for bombings of Israel.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by rpsmith

Newsmax.com - Hamas Reinstates Crucifixions of Christians

I want to see corroboration on this.

[rpsmith]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

I want to see corroboration on this.

And I want to see barry's birth certificate!!



Oops I forgot, according to a certain person here, I'm being a racist for asking such a thing.

[ScottyT]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Yes, but WHY are they doing this "antagonizing?"

Because they want to destroy all Jews and the sovereign nation of Israel.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Hamas is powerless. They are like annoying pests, not a fearsome power.

Good thing the exterminator has been called!

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I'm saying Israel is engaging in disproportionate response,

A proportionate response would be to indiscriminately launch rockets into civilian populations, does that actually sound like a good idea to you? All this talk of proportional response is absolutely ridiculous. Self preservation 101: keep hitting your enemy until they no longer have the ability to hit you (eg. until they stop lobbing rockets across the border).

Originally Posted by Etta Place

How many people have the Israelis killed in the last week or so? How many children?

Not enough, apparently, as the bastards are still launching rockets.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.

I hate what the US military has become, but that is not for this topic. The purpose of the federal gov is to protect its people via the military, this is exactly what Israel is doing.

If someone shoots rockets at your civilians for years and years, they need to be ELIMINATED, not scolded. Wipe the ****ers off the face of the earth, along with anyone who supports them by, for example, letting them launch artillery from a school building.

Your numerous objections on this issue are not only completely illogical, but they are also quite idiotic.

[bluemoonlabel]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

I want to see corroboration on this.

According to the London-based Arabic newspaper al Hayat, on December 23rd Hamas legislators voted to introduce Sharia — Islamic law — to the Palestinian Territories, including crucifixion.
Clashing Civilizations by Mark Steyn on National Review Online

Hamas Enacts Islamic Laws, Including: Amputation, Crucifixion, Lashes

Hamas members of the Palestinian Legislative Council in Gaza have approved a new bill “to implement Koranic punishments,” including hand amputation, crucifixion, corporal punishment and execution. Drinking, owning or producing wine is punished by 40 lashes, while drinking in public adds three months’ imprisonment. Several laws are directed against Hamas’s Palestinian rivals, including a law intended to inhibit non-Hamas negotiators by sentencing to death anyone who was “appointed to negotiate with a foreign government on a Palestinian issue and negotiated against Palestinians’ interest.”

The following is the description as it appears today on the Al Arabiya website:

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Headline: Hamas approves law of punishment by lashes, amputating hands, crucifying, and execution - in order to implement the Islamic Sharia law. Hamas members of the Palestinian Legislative Council approved in its meeting in Gaza a new bill proposed by the Hamas who have a majority in the Legislative Council, whose purpose is “to implement Koranic punishments.”

The newspaper Al Hayat of London reported on Dec. 24, 2008, that this step is seen as unprecedented, and has brought criticism and concern from human rights organizations in the Gaza Strip, especially as this law includes punishments by lashes, cutting off of hands, crucifixion, and execution… The language of the law proposes “primary and secondary” laws. Primary laws include: “Koranic laws, blood revenge, lashes, crucifixion, and execution …”

The text stresses: “These punishments will not be canceled or pardoned … except if pardoned by the victim himself… Section 59 of the law establishes that “punishment of death will be enacted on any Palestinian who intentionally does one of the following: Raised a weapon against Palestine on behalf of the enemy during war, was appointed to negotiate with a foreign government on a Palestinian issue and negotiated against Palestinians’ interest, performed a hostile action against a foreign country in a way that endangers Palestine in war or in harming political relations, served a foreign army in time of war, advised or helped soldiers to enlist in this army, weakened the spirit or the force of resistance of the people, or spied against Palestine especially during war.”

The punishment of lashes appears in many sections of the law. Section 84 states that: “Whoever drinks wine, owns or produces wine will be punished with 40 lashes if he is Muslim, and anyone who drinks wine, or angers another person [with wine], or causes him distress when drinking wine in a public place, or goes to a public place while drunk, will be punished with no less than 40 lashes and imprisonment for the minimum of three months.” [Al-Arabiya, Dec. 24, 2008]

[bluemoonlabel]

Some **** death camp....
YouTube - Daily life in Gaza

[KingArthur]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

The topic is the Vatican Cardinal saying that Gaza is like a concentration camp.

And my response to the arrogant Cardinal is his institution should be well versed in genocide as they have participated and orchestrated so many, and still are unappologetic about it. To me that is the equivalent of Hitler calling Stalin a jerk for the "progroms". So, a representative of one of the longest and bloodiest reign of terrors and religious oppression in Western Civilization thinks that the Jews are being tough on the Palestinians? It makes me wonder if he is not reminiscing of the medieval slaughter of Jews his institution incited, or the **** regime in which many of fellow Clerics were also complicit in?