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Old 01-09-2009, 01:59 AM   #131
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The topic is the Vatican Cardinal saying that Gaza is like a concentration camp.
The thread had evolved, guided by...whom?

Frenchy's post above is IMO correct. You wish to listen to nothing that would make the terrorist group Hamas sound like anything other than working families (with kids, for God's sake let's not forget the kids) struggling against Israeli oppression while sending Chinese and Russian rockets into the land of their oppressors.

Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:00 AM   #132
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well, they have a defacto land now, and they elected a government who insists on attacking the people who are more powerful than they are...

sounds to me like the palestinians are getting what they deserve.

don't like it? don't vote for terrorist assholes to run your government
Not just deserve, but getting what they asked for.

sounds like a PR stunt, they are getting what they ask for. They are hoping to win either way. One to lobby for more power, more land, more sympathy, more aid etc.

Or just have a regular fun filled family day of killing random distant jews that never caused them any harm.

Sounds like they get what they want either way.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:03 AM   #133
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Unfortunately, your sympathies seem totally one-sided.

I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:05 AM   #134
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The thread had evolved, guided by...whom?

Frenchy's post above is IMO correct. You wish to listen to nothing that would make the terrorist group Hamas sound like anything other than working families (with kids, for God's sake let's not forget the kids) struggling against Israeli oppression while sending Chinese and Russian rockets into the land of their oppressors.

Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
Well, don't comment then. I certainly don't think you're offering anything constructive or useful in this thread.
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Old 01-09-2009, 02:06 AM   #135
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I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.
that and building roads is all i really need with a few basic other things on the federal level.

That is big governments job.

If we dont protect our people, our shores, our interests, there are dozens of piss ant dictators that would love to trample on us.

Us or them, i will prefer them every time.
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I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.
But I support self defense, and the sanctity of sovereignty.
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I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.
You could save yourself a mass of posts by just stating "There is no cause for war ever. My mind is made up. End of story."

This doesn't look at the causes behind such actions or the fact that man is fallible and we will never see the end of war, but what the heck. At least it would be honest rather than your always trying to support the little guy agressor (in this case).
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yeah, cause if we'd just get rid of the military the whole world would just get along...
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I hate militarism. The U.S. and Israel's emphasis on militarism is sickening to me. It's wasteful and immoral, in my opinion. I would think that anybody who opposes a large state, big government and big spending by government should be opposed to militarism.
and its not as if the pales are throwing potpouri and fairy dust bombs.

Your disdain seems so one sided, it cant be explained.

It would be sick if the pales were pacifests. Like what china does to buddhist monks in nepal.

Thats not the case here, this is active on the part of the pales. This is what their leaders want. They are using their own people to enrich themselves.

This is par for the course as much you in the past have said you think Bush and cheney are oil men, and the war is for oil blah blah blah.

Did you know arafat looted hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe a billion bucks. This is par for the palestininan leaders, their people are pawns.
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