Investigate Israeli war crimes !

[kellcats521]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Neither you nor Etta has chosen to respond to the points made about Hamas hiding beneath the skirts of civilians as related to the reason for so many civilian casualties. Why is that?

Because that, my neighbor, would bring this thread to an END.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by kellcats521

Because that, my neighbor, would bring this thread to an END.

I would tend to agree, but they all need to wrap up sometime.

[mgeoffriau]

Originally Posted by AK_User

How ignorant.. That area has been Palestine since the Roman times.

Ignorant, huh? I don't think he was challenging that the area has been called Palestine -- only that the group of Arabs who currently inhabit it have any unique claim to that land as "Palestinians". There's ZERO historical evidence to support their claim to that land, other than the fact that they have taken up residence there and won't leave.

It's like Mexicans crossing the border and calling themselves "Californians". It doesn't change who they are.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

Ignorant, huh? I don't think he was challenging that the area has been called Palestine -- only that the group of Arabs who currently inhabit it have any unique claim to that land as "Palestinians". There's ZERO historical evidence to support their claim to that land, other than the fact that they have taken up residence there and won't leave.

It's like Mexicans crossing the border and calling themselves "Californians". It doesn't change who they are.

+Yup!

[AK_User]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

Ignorant, huh? I don't think he was challenging that the area has been called Palestine -- only that the group of Arabs who currently inhabit it have any unique claim to that land as "Palestinians". There's ZERO historical evidence to support their claim to that land, other than the fact that they have taken up residence there and won't leave.

It's like Mexicans crossing the border and calling themselves "Californians". It doesn't change who they are.

Oh... but there is evidence to support the Jewish occupation ?

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by AK_User

Oh... but there is evidence to support the Jewish occupation ?

We're talking Pals here...don't change the subject.

[AK_User]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

We're talking Pals here...don't change the subject.

LoL

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

Ignorant, huh? I don't think he was challenging that the area has been called Palestine -- only that the group of Arabs who currently inhabit it have any unique claim to that land as "Palestinians". There's ZERO historical evidence to support their claim to that land, other than the fact that they have taken up residence there and won't leave.

It's like Mexicans crossing the border and calling themselves "Californians". It doesn't change who they are.

Villagers leaving Al Faluja and Iraq al-Manshiya, on April 9, 1949. The area became the site of the Israeli town Qiryat Gat.


For thirteen centuries, between 1200 B.C. and the second century A.D., the Jews lived in, and often ruled, the land of Israel. The population was clustered mainly in Judaea, Samaria, and Galilee. The Jews’ dominion was long but not eternal. The Romans invaded and, after suppressing revolts in A.D. 66-73 and 132-135, killed or expelled much of the Jewish population and renamed the land Palaestina, for the Philistines who had lived along the southern seacoast. After the conquest, some Jews stayed behind, and the faith of the Hebrews remained a religio licita, a tolerated religion, throughout the Roman Empire.

By the nineteenth century, Palestine had been ruled by Romans, Persians, Byzantines, Arabs, Christian Crusaders, and Ottoman Turks. When Mark Twain visited in 1867, his imagination soaked with the Biblical imagery of milk and honey, he discovered to his surprise “a hopeless, dreary, heartbroken land . . . desolate and unlovely.” Jericho was “accursed,” Jerusalem “a pauper village.” Twain’s passages on Palestine in “The Innocents Abroad” have, over the decades, been exploited by propagandists to echo Lord Shaftesbury’s notion that, before the return of the Jews to Zion, Palestine was a land without a people for a people without a land. Twain and Shaftesbury, as it turned out, were hardly alone in failing to recognize a substantial Arab population in the Judaean hills and beyond.

And yet nineteenth-century Palestine certainly was desolate and impoverished. The population in 1881 consisted of four hundred and fifty thousand Palestinian Arabs and twenty-five thousand Jews, nearly all of them ultra-Orthodox non-nationalists living in Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed, and Tiberias. Palestine, despite its importance to the three monotheistic religions, was a political backwater. The Ottomans divided the land into sanjaks, or districts, which were ruled from Constantinople, Damascus, and Beirut. It was at this time, however, that European Jews—poor, mainly secular, and feeling the onset of an intensified anti-Semitism in their countries of origin—began to emigrate to Palestine. This was the First Aliyah, or ascent. Most European Jewish emigrants headed to North America and Great Britain, but some, in small numbers at first, sailed to Palestine. The local Ottoman bureaucrats were strapped for cash, and the new arrivals had little problem obtaining entry rights, agricultural plots, and building permits. This was colonialism not by conquering armies but by persistent real-estate transactions—and, when necessary, baksheesh.

Blood and Sand: Books: The New Yorker


This is an excellent article, by the way.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by AK_User

LoL

I'm assuming your shifted the topic because you had no good rebuttal to MG's post. That about sum it up?

[Neo31rex31]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

I'm assuming your shifted the topic because you had no good rebuttal to MG's post. That about sum it up?

I believe you are correct