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Old 12-31-2008, 08:10 PM   #121
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Totally misleading cartoon. Israeli propaganda probably.
Seriously, Etta....you're breaking new ground here. I knew you were pretty committed to the leftist ideology, but I didn't expect this kind of borderline anti-Semitic drivel.

Israeli propaganda? Really?
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:15 PM   #122
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Seriously, Etta....you're breaking new ground here. I knew you were pretty committed to the leftist ideology, but I didn't expect this kind of borderline anti-Semitic drivel.

Israeli propaganda? Really?
It's not borderline, it is Eva-Braun-tapdancing-anti-semitism.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:16 PM   #123
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Seriously, Etta....you're breaking new ground here. I knew you were pretty committed to the leftist ideology, but I didn't expect this kind of borderline anti-Semitic drivel.

Israeli propaganda? Really?
What have I said that is anti-Semitic?

You don't think there is pro-Israeli propaganda?
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:18 PM   #124
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What have I said that is anti-Semitic?

You don't think there is pro-Israeli propaganda?
Hmmm, next are going to go on about Zionist conspiracies an offer leaflets to meetings where people bring their own linen?
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:20 PM   #125
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What evidence do you have of this belief? Who breaks the ceasefires? Israel or Hamas?
Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are anti-peace and the government encourages them.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:21 PM   #126
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What have I said that is anti-Semitic?

You don't think there is pro-Israeli propaganda?
I don't think an editorial cartoon pointing out the hypocrisy of Hamas' claims of innocence qualifies as propaganda, and your tinfoil hat conspiracy suggestion is ridiculous.
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Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are anti-peace and the government encourages them.
What does that even mean? "Anti-peace"?

Are they firing rockets indiscriminately at Palestinians? That kind of anti-peace?
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Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are anti-peace and the government encourages them.
And you would think these places would be Tel Aviv, New York, Florida even?
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Actually, with that, I'm done with this thread. It's beginning to sicken me.
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From Israeli peace activist and former Knesset member Uri Avnery:

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November 25, 2008
Eyes Wide Shut
by Uri Avnery

The day before yesterday, two documents appeared side by side in Ha'aretz: a giant advertisement from the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) and the results of a public opinion poll.

The proximity was accidental, but to the point. The PLO ad sets out the details of the 2002 Saudi peace offer, decorated with the colorful flags of the 22 Arab and the 35 other Muslim countries that have endorsed the offer.

The public opinion poll predicts a landslide victory for Likud, which opposes every single word of the Saudi proposal.


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The PLO ad is a first of its kind. At long last, the PLO leaders have decided to address the Israeli people directly.

The ad discloses to the Israeli population the exact terms of the all-Arab peace offer: full recognition of the State of Israel by all Arab and Muslim countries, full normalization of relations – in return for Israeli withdrawal to the pre-1967 borders and the establishment of the Palestinian state, with East Jerusalem as its capital, in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The refugee problem would be solved by mutual agreement – meaning that Israel could veto any solution it considered unacceptable.

I have said it before: if this offer had been made on June 4, 1967, the day before the Six-Day War, Israelis would have felt as if the Messiah had arrived. But when it was published in 2002, many Israelis saw it as a cunning Arab ploy to rob Israel of the fruits of its 1967 victory.

The Israeli government has never officially reacted to this historic offer. Public opinion and the media ignored it almost completely, walled in by the national consensus that there is no chance for peace.

Recently, the old offer woke up to new life. Shimon Peres and Ehud Barak discovered it suddenly, as if they had found a treasure in a hidden cave. Tzipi Livni discovered that it has some interesting points. That is the background to the blessed initiative of Saeb Erekat's "PLO Negotiation Department" to publish the ad.

Israeli public reaction: nil.
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