Chicago Educational Mastery to the Federal Level....

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Originally Posted by Don

Pot meet kettle.

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Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

I don't think they were a waste, nor do I think they are now. My 12 year old is getting a very, very good education with all A's in AP classes...with the material they are mandated to now present.

My argument is that the scales are now so heavily weighted to teaching the NCLB measured subjects (Math/English) that the education is not as well rounded as it used to be. Teachers "teach to the test" and do not go into areas the students might be having problems with in non mandated areas. They have no extra time for this. Other problems IMO are:

-It's underfunded but there's no exclusion for this lack of funding
- There's an incentive to pass along lower performing students in the interest of reaching goals
- There's no Language barrier exclusions
- There are incentives against higher achieving students as they "blow the bell curve"
- It seriously reduces individual school's control of subject matter
- It requires that student's names, addresses and phone numbers be available for Military Recruiters.

As to the very last part of your quote ..... at least in my school district and I would have to assume nation wide due to FERPA laws the release of personal information to a military recuiter or others including the media is illegal.

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

As to the very last part of your quote ..... at least in my school district and I would have to assume nation wide due to FERPA laws the release of personal information to a military recuiter or others including the media is illegal.

It's a part of NCLB. I'm not sure of the enforcement level but it is built into the Act.

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Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

It's a part of NCLB. I'm not sure of the enforcement level but it is built into the Act.

I've been told here that NCLB or not releasing this info is prohibited ..... period unless otherwise stated to be OK by the student or parents.

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

I've been told here that NCLB or not releasing this info is prohibited ..... period unless otherwise stated to be OK by the student or parents.

I'm not sure who told you that here, but....

No Child Left Behind Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Enough for you?

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Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

I'm not sure who told you that here, but....

No Child Left Behind Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Enough for you?

Then my school district is giving the Feds the finger because our releasing of private info is based on FERPA and has to be expressly given permission to release such info. Surely you understand .... I think you're in healthcare so FERPA is the educational equivalent (except it's been around a lot longer) to HIPPA.

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Then my school district is giving the Feds the finger because our releasing of private info is based on FERPA and has to be expressly given permission to release such info. Surely you understand .... I think you're in healthcare so FERPA is the educational equivalent (except it's been around a lot longer) to HIPPA.

FERPA and HIPPA have nothing to do with the realease of info under NCLB.

These are Medical Records Privacy statutes, not general information restrictions that would preclude Recruiters from contacting any and all students if they chose to.

ETA: I sit corrected. It seems FERPA does provide protection for this aspect of NCLB but is in direct conflict with the wording of the Act.

Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not sure how this conflict in language is resolved at the Federal level.

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Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

FERPA and HIPPA have nothing to do with the realease of info under NCLB.

These are Medical Records Privacy statutes, not general information restrictions that would preclude Recruiters from contacting any and all students if they chose to.

I know they are different ..... there are times when it is a major headache to me in trying to determine how I should handle a situation when both might apply. However, in terms of release of private info "we" do not. If a young man or woman decides they want contact with a recruiter, college, the media .... then the student/parent is OK to do so but they need to let the school know that it is indeed OK to comply with their wishes.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

I know they are different ..... there are times when it is a major headache to me in trying to determine how I should handle a situation when both might apply. However, in terms of release of private info "we" do not. If a young man or woman decides they want contact with a recruiter, college, the media .... then the student/parent is OK to do so but they need to let the school know that it is indeed OK to comply with their wishes.

See the edit above.

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Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

See the edit above.

Go figure the gubmint would get two different pieces of legislation at two different times and not be able to figure out that they might conflict.