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Thumbs up Sign Petition AGAINST The Real I.D. Card!

We need to STOP this crap before we ALL have to carry a "Real I.D". Card.
This is unconstitutional, borderline Communiism and an invasion of our Privacy if it gets passed. Please sign this pettion & OPPOSE this load of Government Control Bull****

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Old 12-04-2008, 01:03 PM   #2
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Isn't this also being touted as a tool to prevent identity theft and (maybe) illegal immigration?
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Old 12-04-2008, 01:06 PM   #3
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signed my john hancock for what it's worth.

i feel helpless. the 'man' will do what he want's regardless of our say

i' just trying to stay informed and try to motivate others into investigating and to raise their voices in discontent along with the rest of us.

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Old 12-04-2008, 02:16 PM   #4
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Screw Virginia

(PV) Anyone heard anything about the Real ID Act?

(PV) Rep. Sells So.Dak. out on REAL ID ACT

PV - DownsizeDC: The REAL (ID) Scoop

pennsylvania legislator V REAL ID

REAL ID Lite

The story spreads, it is invasive and there is nothing a petition will do to change things ... National Security will triumph the precious liberty you seek to preserve.

We have the Thought Crime Prevention Bill to keep you in line ... So hush up about that Read ID thing ... You will receive the mark ... If not, GITMO will be your new home

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Old 12-04-2008, 03:47 PM   #5
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Isn't this also being touted as a tool to prevent identity theft and (maybe) illegal immigration?
Yeah, something like that. We all know it's another way to "Control" us.

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Screw Virginia

(PV) Anyone heard anything about the Real ID Act?

(PV) Rep. Sells So.Dak. out on REAL ID ACT

PV - DownsizeDC: The REAL (ID) Scoop

pennsylvania legislator V REAL ID

REAL ID Lite

The story spreads, it is invasive and there is nothing a petition will do to change things ... National Security will triumph the precious liberty you seek to preserve.

We have the Thought Crime Prevention Bill to keep you in line ... So hush up about that Read ID thing ... You will receive the mark ... If not, GITMO will be your new home

The master plan prevails.
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So far, Virginia has RESISTED. No chips in our Drivers Licenses, yet.
This is bullcrap. If they think this can't be "hacked" by Terrorists, they're DEAD Wrong. "Pun" intended. Terrorists Kill!
I will not receive "The MarK". I'll live in a freakin cave if I have to.
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If the government takes guns from Law Abiding Citizens, only Criminals will have Guns. This = CHAOS
Law Abiding Citizens with guns will be here to help our Country when War breaks out or Terrorists attack.


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Yeah, something like that. We all know it's another way to "Control" us.


So far, Virginia has RESISTED. No chips in our Drivers Licenses, yet.
This is bullcrap. If they think this can't be "hacked" by Terrorists, they're DEAD Wrong. "Pun" intended.
I will not receive "The MarK". Let Gitmo come. I'll live in a freakin cave!


YouTube - (2005) Ron Paul: The Real ID Card is a National ID
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:49 PM   #7
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Exclamation More on Petition against Real ID.....

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December 4, 2008
Dear Virginia Patriots,
It’s vital you take action today!
Imagine being forced to use a national identity card that functions as a driver’s license but can be used to track you, control you and can be shut down like a credit card – either by computer glitch or because you are not compliant with some arcane federal regulation.
Imagine no more! It’s all here with Dangerous ID! Dangerous ID (falsely called "Real ID") was snuck through Congress in 2005 as part of the so-called "War on Terror."
As usual, that so-called war is really a war on our liberty, privacy and our Constitution.
But we can stop Dangerous ID cold here in Virginia; if you will help. But first let me make sure you understand how serious this is.
The federal government can use Dangerous ID to prevent you from legally driving a car, opening a bank account, boarding a plane, getting a job or purchasing needed items.
But that’s not all.
All your medical and financial information will be instantly available to Barack Obama’s minions at the ministry of Homeland Defense, once Real ID is fully implemented.
All your movements and travel locations can be tracked.
All your purchases, like guns and ammo or medicine, will be recorded and monitored.
If that’s not bad enough, all this information will be vulnerable to identity theft by high tech computer pirates. You see, the Dangerous ID bill requires your VIRGINIA DRIVERS LICENSE to encode sensitive biometric and personal information into the card and then marries your card, number and information into a single federal database.
Dangerous indeed.
And to add insult to injury, it is an unfunded mandate on Virginia's government and taxpayers.
That's why Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty has teamed up with leading pro-liberty legislators to draft legislation to suspend Virginia's participation in Dangerous ID -- just like 11 other states have already done.
That’s why I hope you will 1) add your name to Campaign for Liberty's NO DANGEROUS ID VIRGINIA petition at http://campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/VA_dangerous_id.php
and 2) make a generous donation by clicking here: http://campaignforliberty.com/donate.php?projid=1 to help make Virginia the 12th state to opt out of Dangerous ID.
Campaign for Liberty will get your petition to your state Delegate and Senator.
Your contribution will help us rally tens of thousands of other liberty and privacy-minded patriots to the cause.
Your Campaign for Liberty staff has put together an aggressive grassroots mobilization and media plan and budget for the Virginia legislative session which begins the second Wednesday in January. Our plan is to make Dangerous ID the top issue in the legislature and to make clear to each elected official that their career is are in danger, unless our liberty is protected from Dangerous ID.
It is going to take a lot of money to win this vote; and even more to hold the politicians accountable next fall. And you know Barack Obama's minions will scream and holler the entire time that Virginia MUST be part of Dangerous ID. But if you will pull with us, I know we can do it.
You see, Campaign for Liberty must raise at least $241,000 overall and $78,000 by December 10th to begin this fight. With the holiday season here, and the start of the legislature just around the corner, there is no time to lose.






I must pay for:
  • STOP DANGEROUS ID yard signs,
  • Rallies,
  • Informational meetings,
  • Phone banks,
  • Literature,
  • Direct mail pieces,
  • Radio and newspaper ads and more.
If all 2500 Virginia patriots receiving this email could reach deep into their pockets and donate at least $50, we would be well on our way to victory and cover over half of the entire project's cost.
I know for some of you $50 is a sacrifice. For others, not so much. Please know that whatever you can afford will be of great help and carefully used.
For those who can afford $1000, $500, $250, or $100, please know that your donations are greatly needed at this time.
Please understand that I practice what Dr. Ron Paul teaches about debt. That is why I cannot and will not go into debt to fund this fight. Without financial support, the project will not go forward.
So please make this fight in Virginia possible by donating the seed money to bring Campaign for Liberty into the Virginia fight against Dangerous ID.
The team I have assembled at C4L is a seasoned team of freedom fighters with track records of winning fights for liberty.
But as you know, he who fights everywhere fights nowhere.






That is why it is essential that C4L patriots select legislative fights that:
  • Are critical in stopping the onslaught of tyranny
  • Can be used in the election season to educate voters as to which legislators support their constitutional oaths of office by deed -- not just words.
STOPPING DANGEROUS ID is such a fight.
And that is why, after you sign your NO DANGEROUS ID VIRGINIA petition, I am asking you to help me find and mobilize at least 20,000 Virginians who love liberty by making a generous donation at http://campaignforliberty.com/donate.php?projid=1.






SO PLEASE TAKE THE FOLLOWING THREE ACTIONS:
  1. Sign your NO DANGEROUS ID VIRGINIA petition at http://campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/VA_dangerous_id.php
  2. Make as generous a donation as possible by clicking http://campaignforliberty.com/donate.php?projid=1.
Forward this email to all your family, friends, and Internet groups asking them to do the same.
For liberty,

John Tate
President
Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty
P.S. Together, you and I can stop Dangerous ID in Virginia. Please sign your petition, donate to rally your fellow Virginia patriots and citizens, and join the fight for liberty in Virginia at http://campaignforliberty.com/donate.php?projid=1


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Yeah, something like that. We all know it's another way to "Control" us.


So far, Virginia has RESISTED. No chips in our Drivers Licenses, yet.
This is bullcrap. If they think this can't be "hacked" by Terrorists, they're DEAD Wrong. "Pun" intended.
I will not receive "The MarK". Let Gitmo come. I'll live in a freakin cave!
Terrorists ??
They don't need no stinking terrorists

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Chips in the drivers license are like chips in the passports.
Sometimes they 'fail', especially after 20 seconds in the microwave.
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Why to refuse the "chip".

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revelation 13:16-17 (king james version)


16and he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I will refuse the "chip" as long as I live. And if they put it in me somehow, I'll disable it or cut it out.
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