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Fredo · 10-23-2008, 04:45 PM

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Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. Or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.

Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.

Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.

A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: ““No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. On the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).

Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.

**afmo** · 10-23-2008, 04:48 PM

with a week and some change to go, i can't believe this thing is coming to a head. eventually, someone will HAVE to address this.

nickb · 10-23-2008, 05:03 PM

**Gravel** · 10-23-2008, 05:07 PM

Because showing it anywhere except where it is requested by court, surely validates the legality of it....

**afmo** · 10-23-2008, 05:12 PM

haven't we shown a few times now that a certification of live birth is not proof of anything? and aren't there problems with that particular image anyway?

nickb · 10-23-2008, 05:16 PM

I wasn't trying to prove anything, I just hadn't seen it yet & thought others may want to as well.

I hope they get into the HI records and throw him out of the country.

AwPhuch · 10-23-2008, 05:29 PM

Only way to get his birth certificate is go to Kenya

**Gravel** · 10-23-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nickb

I wasn't trying to prove anything, I just hadn't seen it yet & thought others may want to as well.

I hope they get into the HI records and throw him out of the country.

Really was more directed at the fact that he has produced documents for the web and for factcheck.org, yet fails to produce them for the courts asking for them. Not a direct kick at you.

XDfan4ever · 10-23-2008, 05:29 PM

Here in Va. You have to show your Genuine Birth Certificate to get a Driver's License! Obama, if elected, would have His finger on the biggest guns in the World, not to mention the United States best kept secrets. I agree with one thing for sure. If Obama IS a "Natural Born US Citizen". WHY is it taking him so long to just provide the papers to the Court??? If it comes out that He has paticipated in the forgery and He is not eligible to be POTUS because He is not a Natural Born US citizen, He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows. He should also be required to pay back all the money that HIS supporters have given him. IF, He is "Legit". Just show the papers Barry!

AwPhuch · 10-23-2008, 05:32 PM

And you wonder why he is going to Hawaii to see his "sick grandmother" that already has said she was in the hospital room when 0bama was born...IN KENYA!!!

More like school her on "this paper I'm fixing to give them, its real...wink wink (with knife at her throat)"

10-23-2008, 04:45 PM	#1
Fredo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: FOB Lion, Panjshir, Afghanistan Posts: 464	Lawsuits filed in 8 states for Obama's birthcert. By Contact: Steve Marquis Telephone Number: 425-698-7084 Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvo...plesvoice.html Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. Or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots. Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama. Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii. A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii. Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: ““No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. On the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship). Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc. __________________ The problem with Christianity is not that it has be tried and found wanting, but that it has been found difficult, and so left untried. -G.K.Chesterton
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10-23-2008, 04:48 PM	#2
afmo XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Jefferson Posts: 8,615	with a week and some change to go, i can't believe this thing is coming to a head. eventually, someone will HAVE to address this. __________________ Jefferson - The 51'st State "You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reason himself into. - Thomas Swift."
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10-23-2008, 05:03 PM	#3
nickb XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,718	__________________ Mmmm mmmm mmmm Barak Hussein Obama spending all he wanna mmm mmm mmm $3.5 Trillion that's a lot o'dolla mmm mmm mmmm $399,543,360 per hour! mmm mmm mmm....
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10-23-2008, 05:07 PM	#4
Gravel XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 2,896	Because showing it anywhere except where it is requested by court, surely validates the legality of it.... __________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither. We must all fear evil men; But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.
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10-23-2008, 05:12 PM	#5
afmo XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: South Jefferson Posts: 8,615	haven't we shown a few times now that a certification of live birth is not proof of anything? and aren't there problems with that particular image anyway? __________________ Jefferson - The 51'st State "You cannot reason a man out of a position he did not reason himself into. - Thomas Swift."
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10-23-2008, 05:16 PM	#6
nickb XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,718	I wasn't trying to prove anything, I just hadn't seen it yet & thought others may want to as well. I hope they get into the HI records and throw him out of the country. __________________ Mmmm mmmm mmmm Barak Hussein Obama spending all he wanna mmm mmm mmm $3.5 Trillion that's a lot o'dolla mmm mmm mmmm $399,543,360 per hour! mmm mmm mmm....
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10-23-2008, 05:29 PM	#7
AwPhuch XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,758	Only way to get his birth certificate is go to Kenya __________________ A sheepdog says "I will lead the way. I will set the highest standards. ...Your mission is to man the ramparts in this dark and desperate hour with honor and courage." - Lt. Col. Grossman "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK Si vis pacem, para bellum
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10-23-2008, 05:29 PM	#9
XDfan4ever XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: VA Posts: 708	Obama's Birth Certificate Here in Va. You have to show your Genuine Birth Certificate to get a Driver's License! Obama, if elected, would have His finger on the biggest guns in the World, not to mention the United States best kept secrets. I agree with one thing for sure. If Obama IS a "Natural Born US Citizen". WHY is it taking him so long to just provide the papers to the Court??? If it comes out that He has paticipated in the forgery and He is not eligible to be POTUS because He is not a Natural Born US citizen, He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows. He should also be required to pay back all the money that HIS supporters have given him. IF, He is "Legit". Just show the papers Barry! __________________ Amendment II A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. If the government takes guns from Law Abiding Citizens, only Criminals will have Guns. This = CHAOS Law Abiding Citizens with guns will be here to help our Country when War breaks out or Terrorists attack. 'From my cold, dead hands!'” — Charlton Heston, May 20, 2000 May He rest in Peace. A Great Man.
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10-23-2008, 05:32 PM	#10
AwPhuch XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,758	And you wonder why he is going to Hawaii to see his "sick grandmother" that already has said she was in the hospital room when 0bama was born...IN KENYA!!! More like school her on "this paper I'm fixing to give them, its real...wink wink (with knife at her throat)" __________________ A sheepdog says "I will lead the way. I will set the highest standards. ...Your mission is to man the ramparts in this dark and desperate hour with honor and courage." - Lt. Col. Grossman "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK Si vis pacem, para bellum
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