Lawsuits filed in 8 states for Obama's birthcert.

[nickb]

Originally Posted by Gravel

Really was more directed at the fact that he has produced documents for the web and for factcheck.org, yet fails to produce them for the courts asking for them. Not a direct kick at you.

Got it.

I know it was not tough for me to get copies for our family when we got passports. You'd think a powerful senator could have it done post haste.

[Moezilla]

The supposed Birth Cert for Obama looks like a very poorly done Photoshop. The text looks obviously added in to a blank template and to boot, done using computer True Type Fonts. Back when he was born in 1961, they were filing them out using a typewriter. So whoever forged that Birth Cert, didn't even do a minimial amount of research to attempt to make it look somewhat realistic. The fonts look like just what they are, a second layer on the image and done without any form of blending, lighting etc to make them appear realistic.

[nickb]

Originally Posted by Moezilla

The supposed Birth Cert for Obama looks like a very poorly done Photoshop. The text looks obviously added in to a blank template and to boot, done using computer True Type Fonts. Back when he was born in 1961, they were filing them out using a typewriter. So whoever forged that Birth Cert, didn't even do a minimial amount of research to attempt to make it look somewhat realistic. The fonts look like just what they are, a second layer on the image and done without any form of blending, lighting etc to make them appear realistic.

It's supposedly a "certified" copy. Note the form date of 11/01 in the lower left corner.

[Carnivorous]

Originally Posted by Moezilla

The supposed Birth Cert for Obama looks like a very poorly done Photoshop. The text looks obviously added in to a blank template and to boot, done using computer True Type Fonts. Back when he was born in 1961, they were filing them out using a typewriter. So whoever forged that Birth Cert, didn't even do a minimial amount of research to attempt to make it look somewhat realistic. The fonts look like just what they are, a second layer on the image and done without any form of blending, lighting etc to make them appear realistic.

Uh... look at the bottom left-hand corner of the certificate. See the "Rev. 11/01"? That means that the certificate uses the form created in November of 2001.

This is a certificate of birth, the "short form" certificate, NOT the "long form" certificate with all of the other information. These certificates are printed on an as-needed basis, so YES, it was printed with a laser printer, not a typewriter. The long-form would be typed on a typewriter.

Secondly, I don't know what the Obama campaign has or hasn't provided to Berg, but you should know that discovery requests don't go through the court, they go directly to another party. So unless Berg files a motion alleging contempt of court, we won't know if Obama has in fact responded to the discovery request.

Seriously, there are enough reasons not to like Obama besides this tin-foil conspiracy nonsense. It's stupid.

[AwPhuch]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

Uh... look at the bottom left-hand corner of the certificate. See the "Rev. 11/01"? That means that the certificate uses the form created in November of 2001.

This is a certificate of birth, the "short form" certificate, NOT the "long form" certificate with all of the other information. These certificates are printed on an as-needed basis, so YES, it was printed with a laser printer, not a typewriter. The long-form would be typed on a typewriter.

Secondly, I don't know what the Obama campaign has or hasn't provided to Berg, but you should know that discovery requests don't go through the court, they go directly to another party. So unless Berg files a motion alleging contempt of court, we won't know if Obama has in fact responded to the discovery request.

Seriously, there are enough reasons not to like Obama besides this tin-foil conspiracy nonsense. It's stupid.

Well because...McCain..who was born in Panama when asked dropped the documentation IMMEDIATELY...nothing to hide...no BS

0bama is a different story...why the hush hush, why the secrecy...he has TONS of his past shrouded and hidden and we are supposed to give this guy control over the nukes and American servicemens lives?!?

[KingWulfgar]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

Seriously, there are enough reasons not to like Obama besides this tin-foil conspiracy nonsense. It's stupid.

While I agree with that sentiment, if it doesn't get settled before Nov. 4, we'll face 4 years of President Biden when Obama is not inaugurated or kicked out of office.

Why hide it if he's legit? There is nothing to gain. The only reason to stonewall and throw up legal roadblocks is if you can't produce.

[Carnivorous]

Originally Posted by AwPhuch

Well because...McCain..who was born in Panama when asked dropped the documentation IMMEDIATELY...nothing to hide...no BS

Mmm... that's not what I understand happened. From my information, McCain got the lawsuit dismissed on various legal grounds. He didn't pass around copies of his birth certificate or any other documents. The McCain campaign has NOT provided a public copy of his birth certificate. [See: John McCain's Birthplace - Fact Checker ] For McCain, nobody was challenging that he had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, they were challenging whether he was a natural-born US citizen.

In fact, McCain's argument in that case cuts both ways! McCain argued that "the Constitution says issues of presidential eligibility are to be decided by voters and the Electoral College and not the courts — a matter of separation of powers among the government's branches." He also argued that "federal courts lack jurisdiction and cause to direct [a secretary of state] to exceed her statutory powers by questioning a party nominee's eligibility". http://www.insidebayarea.com/trivall...907?source=rss

What's good for McCain is good for Obama.

[RogueXD]

Why does it show father's race.. do they all?? I have to look at mine..

[AwPhuch]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

Mmm... that's not what I understand happened. From my information, McCain got the lawsuit dismissed on various legal grounds. He didn't pass around copies of his birth certificate or any other documents. The McCain campaign has NOT provided a public copy of his birth certificate. [See: John McCain's Birthplace - Fact Checker ] For McCain, nobody was challenging that he had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, they were challenging whether he was a natural-born US citizen.

In fact, McCain's argument in that case cuts both ways! McCain argued that "the Constitution says issues of presidential eligibility are to be decided by voters and the Electoral College and not the courts — a matter of separation of powers among the government's branches." He also argued that "federal courts lack jurisdiction and cause to direct [a secretary of state] to exceed her statutory powers by questioning a party nominee's eligibility". Lawsuit over McCain citizenship should be tossed, GOP lawyers say - Inside Bay Area

What's good for McCain is good for Obama.

You really should read the entire article bud

But a senior campaign official showed me a copy of his birth certificate issued by the "family hospital" in the Coco Solo submarine base. (McCain's grandfather commanded the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in 1936; his father was the executive officer of a submarine based in Coco Solo.) The birth certificate was signed by Captain W. L. Irvine. I have now checked that name against the Naval Register for 1936, and I find that William Lorne Irvine was director of the medical facility at the submarine base hospital in Coco Solo, Panama Canal Zone, during that time period. You can see the entry here. I think this effectively disposes of any remaining doubts that McCain was born inside the Canal Zone

Public view is different that giving it to the panel that is to determine your eligibility to be the POTUS..of which 0bama has done neigher of those.

[billbrasky]

from watching a ten minute video by the guy who filed the first suit in penn, its almost a moot point if he HAS a Hawaiian cert, because he went to indonesian, and was a adopted by a foreign national, and we didnt have dual citizenship for indonesians. Further more he changed his name, then snuck back into the country years later. At the bare minimum he does not have permission to even be here period, not even as a guest, student visa etc, the 1/2 - 2/3 of his life should not even occured as they did, he should be some brat in indonesia. Even if someone can find some document that might be forged (since he is floating a forged one around) doesnt legitimize his claim. Unfortunately his mom let the indonesian dude adopt him. He is screwed.

the fact that he doesnt want to adress this is in my opinion clearly betting on his supporters rioting, and the favorite term of the left "disenfranchising" poor folks and blacks. As if its my fault they are in love with a shadow man, who is not what he appears. Obama knows he is not a citizen, shouldnt be here, and is betting on some 11 th hour law to be passed or like everything else in his life, because he is black , the same rules dont apply to him.

he is 100 % betting on cries of racism, a fix, riots, disenfranchisement, and media pandering to stir up resentment. Well will hear about this for decades how the new world order, the illuminati, or some other magic man stoped the great left revolution from happening. Woe is me, obama was gonna fix the world, but the evil white establishment would not let it be.

Always gotz to keep the brotha down.

Pesky white man laws.

anyone who doubts, what good reason can he have for not producing his birthcertificate? Why all the delays, he WANTS this to be a last minute thing, then with the media underplaying this now, at the last minute, in collusion with the left it will not be a test of fitting rules that have been in place since the begging of our country, it will be posed on the news and mass media as some rule the right made up at the last minute.

yep the right has now stolen three elections in a row.