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After all, Republicans own the voting machines!
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Yup. The voting machines have been provided by major Republican Party backers.
If the above equals ownership of the voting machines then it would follow that the Democrats own Fannie and Freddie. Do we really want that kind of leadership?
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During the primary season, the Democrat’s campaign paid an ACORN subsidiary to help canvass voters. Also, in 1995, Obama and two other lawyers from his law firm represented the group in a lawsuit against Illinois to make voter registration easier.
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During the primaries, Barack Obama's campaign paid $800,000 to a group called Citizens Services Inc., a subsidiary of ACORN, to help canvass voters in Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas. In those states, the campaign, according to Democrats familiar with the contract, wanted to augment what its grassroots teams were doing on the ground and had the financial wherewithal to do so. Initially, in their report to the Federal Election Commission, the Obama campaign misstated the reason for the disbursement; they later filed an amended report.

25 days before the election, these payments are now a perception problem for the Obama campaign. ACORN's last-minute surge of registration cards to election supervisors in more than a dozen states threatens to slow the processing of valid registrations. Though none of the fraudulent cards will result in any fraudulent votes being cast, ACORN's practices are, some Democrats working with the Obama campaign concede, unhelpful in that they create the appearance of bad doings, and they take the shine off the 99% of new registrations that are valid.Obama, as a community organizer, has come in contact with ACORN. ACORN is a mainstay of progressive umbrella groups like America Votes. But there is no evidence of a conspiracy, only of massive interest in a massively important election.

By trumping up ACORN's problems and by linking them to the Obama campaign, Republicans are building a foundation on top of which they can aggressively challenge voters on Election Day.
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If the above equals ownership of the voting machines then it would follow that the Democrats own Fannie and Freddie. Do we really want that kind of leadership?

Republicans are responsible for Freddie and Fannie problems too. After all, they held the majority for 6 out of the 8 years of the Bush presidency. Why didn't they fix the problem?
 
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Republicans are responsible for Freddie and Fannie problems too. After all, they held the majority for 6 out of the 8 years of the Bush presidency. Why didn't they fix the problem?
haven't we already proven that people were trying to fix the problem (including John McCain) and were consistently blocked by the democrats, including Representative Fudd??
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haven't we already proven that people were trying to fix the problem (including John McCain)?

Well, why didn't they do it? They had enough people to win.
 
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25 days before the election, these payments are now a perception problem for the Obama campaign. ACORN's last-minute surge of registration cards to election supervisors in more than a dozen states threatens to slow the processing of valid registrations. Though none of the fraudulent cards will result in any fraudulent votes being cast, ACORN's practices are, some Democrats working with the Obama campaign concede, unhelpful in that they create the appearance of bad doings
Thank you for the Blogger's opinion.

Now, does the Democratic Party own Fannie and Freddie or not?
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Republicans are responsible for Freddie and Fannie problems too. After all, they held the majority for 6 out of the 8 years of the Bush presidency. Why didn't they fix the problem?
Ask Dodd, Frank, Obama, Pelosi and Reid. This has been done to death here and you know it. Search McCain's 2005 proposal to limit this Democratic handout factory to find the true reason behind the lack of regs for Fannie Freddie. Nice diversion though, I give it a 6 of 10.

Now, how is it that the Rs own the voting machines/Diebold if the Dems don't own Fannie/Freddie due to campaign contributions again? Standing by.
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Well, why didn't they do it? They had enough people to win.

Gateway Pundit: Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008 Alone... Dems Ignored Warnings
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President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president's warnings:

** 2001

April: The Administration's FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is "a potential problem," because "financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity."

** 2002

May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

** 2003

January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that "although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations," "the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them." As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. ("Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO," OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO's review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact "legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises" and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any "legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk." To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have "broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards" and "receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

** 2004

February: The President's FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: "The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator." (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to "not take [the financial market's] strength for granted." Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by "ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator." (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, "Keeping Fannie And Freddie's House In Order," Financial Times, 2/24/04)

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying "We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System." (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

** 2005

April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying "Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system." (Secretary John W. Snow, "Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee," 4/13/05)

** 2007

July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying "first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options." (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying "These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I've called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon." (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

** 2008

January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says "A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully." (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/0

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and "move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages." (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/0

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation and "modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/0

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

"Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/0

"[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator." (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/0

"Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans." (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/0

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying "we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/0

July: Congress heeds the President's call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.
In 2005-- Senator John McCain partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending.
Democrats blocked this reform, too.
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I understand your concern. Don't you think that the vast majority of the country desperately wants to believe that our electoral process is fair and honest?

I don't ascribe sinister motives to Obama about ACORN. He's not depending on them for voter registration. He has tons of his own people doing that. He just doesn't want people to be afraid to vote or be disenfranchised because the Republicans are over-zealous in their efforts to control the voting process. After all, Republicans own the voting machines! I guess they're afraid the election won't be close enough that they can steal it this time.
I think the vast majority are to busy playing XBOX and drinking Latte's to really even know what the process is supposed to be like, and those that do care, probably don't want to realize just how corrupt the sysyem might actually be.
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Bush proposed a New Agency to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
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Published: September 11, 2003

The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.

Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.

The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.

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Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

”These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis,” said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ”The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”
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