Here's your average Pallin voter

[Krackels]

Congratulations you're one of two active members here that have convinced me that I'd be better off if I just ignored you.

On the upside, I'll probably clear my ignore list after the election/fiasco about stealing the election and give everyone a clean slate.

[Brickboy240]

You all are not too used to dealing with Europeans are you?

You have to understand, they, like the mid-easterners, have grown up being fed a continious stream of lies and stereotypes about Americans and America. Maybe not in an official capacity, but the stories and stereotypes are definately there in droves. They get it from their media, schools and friends.

I have cousins in Sweden and have friends, neighbors and co-workers from places like Bulgaria, Moldova, France, Scotland and Belgium and guess what...they ALL have (or had) some very negative and similar stereotypes of this country. It is almost as if someone passed out flyers in all these countries that have the same lies and stereotypes, because the similarity of opinions from these various places was amazingly similar.

Many of these people (now living in the USA) now feel differently and (surprise) many want to stay in the USA. Some admit to hearing lies about America and Americans and were amazed when they found many to be completely untrue. Oddly enough, all that have come here to work on a visa want to stay. If its SO AWFUL here...WHY do they ALL want to stay?

Breadfan is no different in his writings than almost every other European I have ever met. This does not necessarily make him a bad person. You just have to understand that he has been fed a non-stop diet of anti-Ameircanism his whole life. In some shape, form or fashion.

By befriending him and having a civil conversation, you might change his mind and learn things about a part of the world, we don't hear alot about here in the USA. By mocking and belitling him, you only serve to fulfill his preconcieved notions about "ugly Americans."

This is your choice...but understand where these people come from and it helps explain their actions.

Think before you post....please.

- brickboy240

[lance22]

It's easy to criticize America when you live in a paradise like Croatia where all the ethnic groups live in harmony and share power without animosity.

I work in IT so I'm around other nationalities all day every day. It always amazes me that people who's history contains institutionalized slavery will pretend that America alone has sanctioned that deplorable trade. It reminds me of Vincent Fox's rant last year about how America's history of slavery taints it's view of the present - very convenient for him to forget that Mexico had institutionalized slavery for long years. It's even more funny to hear people from Arab countries criticize the US for racism - when they themselves won't even have friendly relations with somebody from a different religious sect (sunni, shia, all that). Heck, even the Africans tell us we are racist, when they themselves deny building / assembly permits to people of other tribes.

The myth is, America is racist and the rest of the world is civilized. If you ask me, it's pretty easy to understand why our forbears wanted to leave that part of the world and start something new.

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

It's become pretty apparent to me that Breadfan is just getting his jollies by pushing buttons of the members here, the harder the better. He's obviously getting off in some wierd way on the angry responses. I haven't used the ignore button because only one member here has been irritating enough to me to get to that point. I won't name names but he appears to like to eat human flesh.

If all stop taking the time to extensively respond to his posts then I think he'll get bored and sulk away, just like the irritating kids in grade school.

This sounds like several people here off the top of my head.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

This sounds like several people here off the top of my head.

True, but I was focusing on this thread.

[LUVMYSIGP225]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

You all are not too used to dealing with Europeans are you?

You have to understand, they, like the mid-easterners, have grown up being fed a continious stream of lies and stereotypes about Americans and America. Maybe not in an official capacity, but the stories and stereotypes are definately there in droves. They get it from their media, schools and friends.

I have cousins in Sweden and have friends, neighbors and co-workers from places like Bulgaria, Moldova, France, Scotland and Belgium and guess what...they ALL have (or had) some very negative and similar stereotypes of this country. It is almost as if someone passed out flyers in all these countries that have the same lies and stereotypes, because the similarity of opinions from these various places was amazingly similar.

Many of these people (now living in the USA) now feel differently and (surprise) many want to stay in the USA. Some admit to hearing lies about America and Americans and were amazed when they found many to be completely untrue. Oddly enough, all that have come here to work on a visa want to stay. If its SO AWFUL here...WHY do they ALL want to stay?

Breadfan is no different in his writings than almost every other European I have ever met. This does not necessarily make him a bad person. You just have to understand that he has been fed a non-stop diet of anti-Ameircanism his whole life. In some shape, form or fashion.

By befriending him and having a civil conversation, you might change his mind and learn things about a part of the world, we don't hear alot about here in the USA. By mocking and belitling him, you only serve to fulfill his preconcieved notions about "ugly Americans."

This is your choice...but understand where these people come from and it helps explain their actions.

Think before you post....please.

- brickboy240

Three of my best friends are Brit ex-Pats. One of my neighbors was born in Italy. The guy across the street is from Poland. One of my Brit buds moved here when he saw how cheap property is in Ohio. I have converted him into an EBR owning gun nut. I deal with Europeans all the time.

Maybe if Breadfan thinks before he posts, it will change my mind about Croatians.

I really have no problem with "Deadly Breadly"(that's my new name for Breadfan). He seems like a really friendly guy. We have had a few PM's, as of late about gun laws in Croatia, etc.

I am an antagonist comic. On here and at home and work. My wife and co-workers can barely stand to live my antics. I don't have much of a serious bone in my body.

If I wanted to seriously attack Bread, I could go to one of the hundreds of other posts that he taunts people in, and make a scene.

[R Dub]

Originally Posted by Breadfan

What Pallin did, she intentionally antagonized Obama and his character and now the little racists playing around with Obama monkey dolls are attending her rallies and using it as a good excuse to excercise their little racists freedomes.

Your are making the ASSumption that these were verified Palin supporters. Not uncommon for the other party to plant people in these crowds for this purpose. All political parties and their special interest groups play this game because they know the MSM headlines it and sheeple run with it.

[Breadfan]

Originally Posted by R Dub

Your are making the ASSumption that these were verified Palin supporters. Not uncommon for the other party to plant people in these crowds for this purpose. All political parties and their special interest groups play this game because they know the MSM headlines it and sheeple run with it.

If that guy was planted with an intention to make Palin look bad (let's just for a second forget about the other dozens racist hicks in the video ) then why would he try to hide the doll the moment he realized he was on the TV camera?

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

You all are not too used to dealing with Europeans are you?

You have to understand, they, like the mid-easterners, have grown up being fed a continious stream of lies and stereotypes about Americans and America. Maybe not in an official capacity, but the stories and stereotypes are definately there in droves. They get it from their media, schools and friends.

I have cousins in Sweden and have friends, neighbors and co-workers from places like Bulgaria, Moldova, France, Scotland and Belgium and guess what...they ALL have (or had) some very negative and similar stereotypes of this country. It is almost as if someone passed out flyers in all these countries that have the same lies and stereotypes, because the similarity of opinions from these various places was amazingly similar.

Many of these people (now living in the USA) now feel differently and (surprise) many want to stay in the USA. Some admit to hearing lies about America and Americans and were amazed when they found many to be completely untrue. Oddly enough, all that have come here to work on a visa want to stay. If its SO AWFUL here...WHY do they ALL want to stay?

Breadfan is no different in his writings than almost every other European I have ever met. This does not necessarily make him a bad person. You just have to understand that he has been fed a non-stop diet of anti-Ameircanism his whole life. In some shape, form or fashion.

By befriending him and having a civil conversation, you might change his mind and learn things about a part of the world, we don't hear alot about here in the USA. By mocking and belitling him, you only serve to fulfill his preconcieved notions about "ugly Americans."

This is your choice...but understand where these people come from and it helps explain their actions.

Think before you post....please.

- brickboy240

Boy you sure told them, but did they bother to listen?

[jmichna]

Average 0bama supporter, I guess:

Obama Supporter Assaults Female McCain Volunteer in NY
By Red Square
10/19/2008, 5:20 pm

First published in
Pajamas Media


Our out-of-character reporting in Pajamas Media appeared on Drudge Report and hundreds of other websites within hours:
While the Democrat-leaning media continues to scare undecided voters with bedtime stories about some mythical angry McCain supporter whom nobody has seen, here is a real district attorney's complaint documenting an unprovoked assault by an enraged Democrat against a McCain volunteer in midtown Manhattan: "Defendant grabbed the sign [informant] was holding, broke the wood stick that was attached to it, and then struck informant in informant's face thereby causing informant to sustain redness, swelling, and bruising to informant's face and further causing informant to sustain substantial pain."

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The names have been redacted out of respect for people's privacy.
The overly formal document doesn't mention this important detail: the victim was a small, quiet, middle-aged woman wearing glasses, and the attacker was a loud, angry man who went into orbit at the mere sight of McCain campaign signs.

On a Monday afternoon, September 15, 2008, three McCain volunteers were holding campaign signs and distributing leaflets on a busy corner of 51st Street and Lexington Avenue. As they were peacefully talking to each other, they were approached by a man who, in the words of the victim, provided the impression of "a rather benign, doughy-looking guy -- not a person I would have expected to assault me."

The picture she took of her fellow volunteers right before the attack
He rushed towards them, grabbed a McCain sign off a volunteer's hands, and tore it apart. That didn't seem enough.
This is how the victim describes it:

• I said, "What are you doing? You can't do that!" And he was red in the face screaming, "You people are ridiculous!" And I said, "Yeah, whatever, but you can't do that."

• So I reached for the sign that he ripped up, and he grabbed another sign, broke it, and ripped it to shreds. And when I said, "You can't do that," he took the stick from the sign and started beating me on the head with it. He broke the skin on my head, he scratched my wrist, and almost broke my glasses, and then he left.

• I followed him down the stairs to the subway until I could get the police and I said, "You're not going to get away with it." And as soon as he saw the police he immediately went calm. He still had the stick in his hand, and you could see the injury on my face, and he admitted it. He was arrested. He actually said, "I don't know why I did this. It's just those signs, and this election, it has me so upset."
  Some people are losing control, and it's not the people on the right. Never have I seen that behavior with any of the people on my side of the fence. ... It's just not our way. Look at us, most of us have never been protesters. ... Do I feel that the left is aggressive and potentially violent? Yes, because we've all seen it. I certainly have ... firsthand!

A more detailed account of this story can be found on this blog, as well as in an interview she gave to a reporter from France 24 TV station.


The attacker: shielding his face from the camera while talking to the police

To avoid complications until the matter is settled in the court of law, we substituted the man's face with the Obama emblem (Where's his Messiah now?)

What came over him? Probably a hangover after that MSNBC election coverage. He might as well have continued living a benign life if the one-sided media election coverage and the Democratic Party's scorched-earth propaganda strategy hadn't turned this New Yorker into an enraged, quixotic attack machine slaying Republican "dragons" in the middle of a liberal city.

I suspect that if the roles were reversed and some angry Republican man had launched an unprovoked attack on a frail, bespectacled, Obama-supporting female the media would have had a field day, never letting this story off the front pages up until the election.
Will the media run with a story of an Obama supporter who went berserk at the sight of McCain signs and repeatedly struck a woman volunteer on the head with a stick?