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**jmichna** · 10-16-2008, 03:46 PM

ACORN Watch: The FBI steps in
By Michelle Malkin • October 16, 2008 01:02 PM

Finally. Let’s hope it’s not too late.

The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election.

A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday. A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.

Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.

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Four letters, people: R-I-C-O.
In Bidenworld, that’s three letters.

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**XDConvert9mm** · 10-16-2008, 04:08 PM

While I strongly applaud this move I fear that it's coming too late to really help in this election.

**ForTehNguyen** · 10-16-2008, 04:11 PM

im sure it was it was a coincedence of 15 rogue voter registration teams and NOT a national policy of fraud

**AZXD** · 10-16-2008, 04:11 PM

Look to the bright side ... If Obama wins ... We will get ... New Justice Department Officials ... The ACORN story will get buried quickly, and when 2012 gets here... There will be NO need to vote ... It will be decided for you.

**JoshXD40** · 10-16-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AZXD

Look to the bright side ... If Obama wins ... We will get ... New Justice Department Officials ... The ACORN story will get buried quickly, and when 2012 gets here... There will be NO need to vote ... It will be decided for you.

Well said...

**jmichna** · 10-16-2008, 05:51 PM

About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies
Oct 15 08:18 PM US/Eastern
By TERRY KINNEY
Associated Press Writer

CINCINNATI (AP) - Close to one in every three newly registered Ohio voters will end up on court-ordered lists being sent to county election boards because they have some discrepancy in their records, an elections spokesman said Wednesday. Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner estimated that an initial review found that about 200,000 newly registered voters reported information that did not match motor-vehicle or Social Security records, Brunner spokesman Kevin Kidder said. Some discrepancies could be as simple as a misspelling, while others could be more significant.

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with the Ohio Republican Party on Tuesday and ordered Brunner to set up a system that provides those names to county elections boards. The GOP contends the information will help prevent fraud.

"Things already are in motion to comply," Kidder said. "We're working to establish these processes on how we can make this work. The computer work actually began last week."

About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January.
Brunner previously cross-checked new-voter registrations with databases run by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicle and the Social Security Administration and made the results available online, but the 6th Circuit said the information was not accessible in a way that would help county election boards ferret out mismatches.

Brunner, a Democrat, told The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer on Wednesday that she is concerned the court decision is a veiled attempt at disenfranchising voters. Brunner said she'll urge counties not to force these people to use provisional ballots.

The court gave Brunner until Friday to get election boards the information but it was unclear whether that deadline would be met. The court set no penalty for missing the deadline.

County election officials were trying to determine Wednesday how they will respond once they get the information.

"I'm very concerned with these new requirements as we get closer to Election Day," said Steve Harsman, director of the Montgomery County Board of Elections in Dayton. He said his staff already is working 16 hours a day, seven days a week.

"It's clearly going to have an impact in regard to resources we have to expend to resolve discrepancies," said Jeff Hastings, chairman of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in Cleveland.

"We've had about 100,000 (registrations) since January and of those about 34,000 since the primary. We will do whatever is required of us."
Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month.

Brunner has said that 13,141 Ohioans registered and voted immediately during the window.

"We've seen reports of fraudulent registrations, and we want to see those forms first-hand," said Jason Mauk, the state GOP's executive director.

**Frenchy** · 10-16-2008, 06:09 PM

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especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month.

Didn't someone argue that false registration doesn't equate to fraudulent voting?

**XDConvert9mm** · 10-17-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Frenchy

Didn't someone argue that false registration doesn't equate to fraudulent voting?

I do believe that this argument has been floated.....

AwPhuch · 10-17-2008, 02:31 PM

WOW..pulled from acorns home site..I wonder how many of those 1.3 million voters are frauds!!!

KingWulfgar · 10-17-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AwPhuch

WOW..pulled from acorns home site..I wonder how many of those 1.3 million voters are frauds!!!

A better question is how many will bother to show up on Nov. 4. If you have to be coerced into registering, how likely are you to take time out of your "busy" day to stand in line and vote?

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jmichna XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NE Obamistan Posts: 5,797	Maybe some hope re ACORN..... ACORN Watch: The FBI steps in By Michelle Malkin • October 16, 2008 01:02 PM Finally. Let’s hope it’s not too late. The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday. A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election. (link) Four letters, people: R-I-C-O. In Bidenworld, that’s three letters. Posted in: ACORN Watch Send to a Friend __________________ Fight Organized Crime... next election, elect no one. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "It was often pointed out during the election that Obama lacked management experience. While having a president with no experience is bad, it's not nearly as bad as having a president with experience as a community organizer." ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." - James Madison, Federalist No. 10
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jmichna XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NE Obamistan Posts: 5,797	About 200K Ohio voters have records discrepancies Oct 15 08:18 PM US/Eastern By TERRY KINNEY Associated Press Writer CINCINNATI (AP) - Close to one in every three newly registered Ohio voters will end up on court-ordered lists being sent to county election boards because they have some discrepancy in their records, an elections spokesman said Wednesday. Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner estimated that an initial review found that about 200,000 newly registered voters reported information that did not match motor-vehicle or Social Security records, Brunner spokesman Kevin Kidder said. Some discrepancies could be as simple as a misspelling, while others could be more significant. The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati sided with the Ohio Republican Party on Tuesday and ordered Brunner to set up a system that provides those names to county elections boards. The GOP contends the information will help prevent fraud. "Things already are in motion to comply," Kidder said. "We're working to establish these processes on how we can make this work. The computer work actually began last week." About 666,000 Ohioans have registered to vote since January. Brunner previously cross-checked new-voter registrations with databases run by the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicle and the Social Security Administration and made the results available online, but the 6th Circuit said the information was not accessible in a way that would help county election boards ferret out mismatches. Brunner, a Democrat, told The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer on Wednesday that she is concerned the court decision is a veiled attempt at disenfranchising voters. Brunner said she'll urge counties not to force these people to use provisional ballots. The court gave Brunner until Friday to get election boards the information but it was unclear whether that deadline would be met. The court set no penalty for missing the deadline. County election officials were trying to determine Wednesday how they will respond once they get the information. "I'm very concerned with these new requirements as we get closer to Election Day," said Steve Harsman, director of the Montgomery County Board of Elections in Dayton. He said his staff already is working 16 hours a day, seven days a week. "It's clearly going to have an impact in regard to resources we have to expend to resolve discrepancies," said Jeff Hastings, chairman of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections in Cleveland. "We've had about 100,000 (registrations) since January and of those about 34,000 since the primary. We will do whatever is required of us." Also Wednesday, the Ohio Republican Party said it has filed public records requests with all 88 counties for copies of forms submitted by newly registered voters, especially those who registered and cast an absentee ballot on the same day during a one-week window earlier this month. Brunner has said that 13,141 Ohioans registered and voted immediately during the window. "We've seen reports of fraudulent registrations, and we want to see those forms first-hand," said Jason Mauk, the state GOP's executive director. __________________ Fight Organized Crime... next election, elect no one. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "It was often pointed out during the election that Obama lacked management experience. While having a president with no experience is bad, it's not nearly as bad as having a president with experience as a community organizer." ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." - James Madison, Federalist No. 10
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