Are Republicans joking?

[robinsre]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

First they're all up in arms about this ACORN stuff - like we're supposed to just forget that Republicans have been trying and many times succeeding in suppressing the vote for years. That's probably why groups like ACORN even exist!!

Then, we have the accusation that Obama tried to interfere with negotiations with the Iraqi government in order to help his election prospects. This is something that Ronald Reagan was accused of in 1979.

What's that saying about the pot calling the kettle black??

So we're supposed to ignore bad behavior because the other side had done it in the past?

Hmm....by your logic it should be okay for U.S Soldiers to run into buildings with bombs strapped to their chests and kill mothers and children...I mean...hell the other side does it...it would be hypocrisy for them to say anything bad about US doing it right?

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by robinsre

So we're supposed to ignore bad behavior because the other side had done it in the past?

Hmm....by your logic it should be okay for U.S Soldiers to run into buildings with bombs strapped to their chests and kill mothers and children...I mean...hell the other side does it...it would be hypocrisy for them to say anything bad about US doing it right?

They didn't just do it in the past. They are doing it as we speak. That's why groups like ACORN exist.

[billbrasky]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

They purge voter rolls and throw up all of these obstacles to people getting registered.

obstacles like what?

and are the obstacles one sided as in somehow across the state, across county across the country, these obstacles are only pressed on democrats, and not on republicans in democratic towns, counties etc.

I am curious what exactly qualifies as an obstacle in your mind. In my town i vote and i am in and out in a few minutes.

[Captain Jack]

Instead of passing everything off as an excuse or ploy to derail Obama by the "nasty" Republicans, how about spending all that time and energy looking into the FACTS of who and what Obama, yes, THAT GUY, is?

Obama was not only a Lawyer for ACORN, he was also a part of it as well. he also donated $800,000 to have them recruit voters for him.

Obama has known Ayers a lot longer and a lot better than he wants to admit to. Ayers is not some guy in his neighborhood, he is THE guy that helped launch his political career.

Not to mention Rev. Wright, who said that the Messiah is coming, referring to Obama.

The dirty and shady laundry list goes on and on. For a relatively new politician, he's got quite a few skeletons in his closet that rivals many old-fart seasoned politicians to say the least.

But, hey, who am I to question That One? How dare I? I shall be barraged by a thousand smites by the Messiah's sheepish and uneducated followers who would rather be told what to do than to think for themselves.

ACORN is stuffing the ballot boxes nation-wide. Obama knows about it, and refuses to say anything regarding it. That speaks very badly for his integrity in my book. But like with Rev. Wright, Obama refuses to denounce it, because he's a coward. He'd rather hear the chears and chants than to face the music and challenge anything head-on. He can't even challenge McCain. Don't believe me? Look at his campaign. He is running against G.W. Bush.

[robinsre]

I just read your sources...


Oh No the EVIL republicans are at it again. Trying to inject some sense of fairness and intelligence into the voting process.

Come on Etta...you and I both know those opinion pieces are biased.

Requiring a government ID to vote is not evil, it's not racist, and it's not a dirty trick....in my book I'd call it smart.

Look, we have an illegal immigration problem on our hands, and a lot of folks who are so fed up with the GWB administration they're more than willing to defraud the system to get Obama elected.

If we're going to goad ourselves into believing we have a "fair" democratic process then we need to be sure that each CITIZEN gets one vote and ONLY one vote. I don't see anything wrong with requiring an ID, or ensuring that your credentials match who you say you are if you want to vote.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by robinsre

I just read your sources...




Come on Etta...you and I both know those opinion pieces are biased.

Yes...indeed they are.
ACORN exists for one purpose and one purpose only...to further the agenda of the Democratic Party. To believe otherwise is ridiculous.

[gsh341]

Etta,

You really need to open up your mind a little.

There is an FBI investigation in process into the voter fraud conducted by ACORN. In Ohio, the Secretary of State is in trouble for violating election laws. People were being registered and voting all at the same time with no ID at all. There are allegations of ACORN performing voter fraud in Ohio, Indiana, New Mexico, Nevada, Kansas, Wisconsin, Michigan and North Carolina (there may be more coming). That's a possible 100 electoral votes. Six of those states are battleground states this year worth 62 electoral votes.

Why is it so hard to believe that ACORN, being a far left organization that 0bama is known to have worked with and public record shows him contributing to, MIGHT have decided to "help" him out buy stuffing ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Some sources (unreliable, but you never know) place the possible count of fraudulent registrations at over 1 million. Think that might have an effect on election day if they all voted for 0bama?

No matter how you look at it, this is NOT a good thing.

If 0bama is ever connected to this in a verifiable manner he will likely end up in jail.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by gsh341

Etta,

You really need to open up your mind a little.

There is an FBI investigation in process into the voter fraud conducted by ACORN. In Ohio, the Secretary of State is in trouble for violating election laws. People were being registered and voting all at the same time with no ID at all. There are allegations of ACORN performing voter fraud in Ohio, Indiana, New Mexico, Nevada, Kansas, Wisconsin, Michigan and North Carolina (there may be more coming). That's a possible 100 electoral votes. Six of those states are battleground states this year worth 62 electoral votes.

Why is it so hard to believe that ACORN, being a far left organization that 0bama is known to have worked with and public record shows him contributing to, MIGHT have decided to "help" him out buy stuffing ballot boxes with fraudulent votes?

Some sources (unreliable, but you never know) place the possible count of fraudulent registrations at over 1 million. Think that might have an effect on election day if they all voted for 0bama?

No matter how you look at it, this is NOT a good thing.

If 0bama is ever connected to this in a verifiable manner he will likely end up in jail.

I understand. After thinking about this for a while, I realized that I was not objectively looking at the charges against ACORN. I am a firm believer in making sure our elections are fair and honest.

In a spirit of bipartisanship, I tried to change the title of this thread, but I was not able to do it. I want to be more balanced but I let myself get too caught up in arguing. So, sorry about that.

I do think both sides are guilty of perpetrating election irregularities.

[KEVWYO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Etta Place
Yes, and Chuck Hagel and Jack Reed as well as Obama have disputed the allegations in this article.

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Well, that should be enough for anyone, shouldn't it?

So three US Senators isn't good enough? Where exactly is the XDC bar so we all know the "standard" ?

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I understand. After thinking about this for a while, I realized that I was not objectively looking at the charges against ACORN. I am a firm believer in making sure our elections are fair and honest.

In a spirit of bipartisanship, I tried to change the title of this thread, but I was not able to do it. I want to be more balanced but I let myself get too caught up in arguing. So, sorry about that.

I do think both sides are guilty of perpetrating election irregularities.

No one will argue that, but I believe most of it comes from the state and local jurisdictions, rather than a national conspiracy.