Guess McCain dodged a bullet here....

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I will do so later, but I thought the allegations I made were common knowledge.

We'll all be holding our breath......

[jmichna]

Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Chicago, Kansas City, states of Washington, Ohio, New York, Delaware, Colorado... just to name a few.

Michael P. Tremoglie Talks
From Little ACORNs Grow Big Scandals
By Michael P. Tremoglie, The Bulletin
09/18/2008

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A community organization, with longstanding ties to Barack Obama, has, according to numerous reports, repeatedly run afoul of voter registration laws both locally and nationally.

Mr. Obama worked for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now's Project Vote voter-registration campaign in 1992 after graduating from Harvard Law School. He directed a successful voter-registration campaign, credited with electing Carol Moseley-Braun to the U.S. Senate. Primarily targeting African-Americans, Mr. Obama's efforts added an estimated 125,000 voters to the rolls.

He also participated on a team of attorneys working on behalf of ACORN. They filed a 1995 lawsuit, which required the state of Illinois to implement the federal "motor-voter" bill. He still maintains a relationship with the organization. Mr. Obama's campaign had to file amended federal election reports in August. They paid more than $800,000 to Citizens Services Inc. (CSI), an ACORN subsidiary, to turn out for the campaign during the primaries. However, the campaign listed CSI's activities as polling, advance work and staging major events.

ACORN has a checkered past - and present. It is a grassroots political organization founded by Wade Rathke and George Wiley, both of whom were community organizers for the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO).
That checkered past also has turned up locally.

Philadelphia election officials recently accused ACORN, of filing multiple fraudulent voter registrations during the 2008 Pennsylvania primary. The case has been referred to the U.S. Attorney's office, according to Philadelphia Deputy Election Commissioner Fred Voight.

Delaware County election officials have made similar allegations against the group, and criminal indictments are pending.

This past July 24, Dauphin County detectives offered a $2,000 reward for information about the whereabouts of Luis R. Torres-Serrano, an ACORN worker, who was accused of submitting more than 100 fraudulent voter registrations.

ACORN's legal problems with their voter registration efforts stretch beyond state boundaries.

The Milwaukee district attorney is investigating 39 ACORN employees for criminal violations, including offering gifts to sign up voters and falsifying driver's license numbers, Social Security numbers or other information on voter registration cards.

Five ACORN employees were convicted and imprisoned in Washington state, in 2007, for what was described by Washington's Secretary of State Sam Reed, as, "was the worst case of election fraud in our state's history. It was an outrage."

"(ACORN) Workers ... said they were under pressure from the community-organizing group that hired them to sign up more voters," The Seattle Times reported . "Workers told investigators they went to the Seattle public library and filled out the voter registration forms, by using contrived names, addresses and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book."

Numerous ACORN-related indictments and, or convictions, have been seeded across the country in recent years.
Four part-time ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City, Mo., for voter registration fraud in November 2006. Two Colorado ACORN workers were sentenced to community service, in January 2005, for submitting false voter registrations.

During the 2004 election, ACORN, and its sister group Project Vote, ran a nationwide voter mobilization drive that was rife with allegations of voter fraud. A worker for one ACORN affiliate in Ohio was allegedly given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and voters named Mary Poppins, **** Tracy and Jive Turkey. Four Ohio ACORN employees were indicted by a federal grand jury for submitting false voter registration forms.

Messrs. Rathke and Wiley formed ACORN in the early 1970s, expanding their involvement beyond welfare recipients to all issues touching low-income and working-class people. According to Discoverthenetworks.org, they enlisted civil rights workers and trained them in a program at Syracuse University patterned after the Saul Alinsky school of activist tactics in Chicago.



Today, ACORN is the largest community organization of low- and moderate-income people in America, with over 400,000 member families organized into more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in 110 cities across the country.

ACORN founded the Working Families Party in New York in 1998. They endorsed Hillary Clinton for her Senate campaign that year. Canvassers from ACORN and its sister groups launched a statewide voter-mobilization drive that proved influential in Mrs. Clinton's victory.
Yet, opponents say ACORN has violated its own mission not to mention numerous laws meant to protect poor and working class citizens and voters.

The New York Times reported in July 2008 that a whistleblower forced the organization to publicly disclose an embezzlement of almost $1 million in 1999 and 2000, involving Dale Rathke, the brother of the organization's founder Wade Rathke.

Some ACORN executives kept the information from board members and did not tell law enforcement. Meanwhile, Dale Rathke remained on the payroll until June 2008, when disclosure of his theft forced the organization to dismiss him.

"We thought it best at the time to protect the organization, as well as to get the funds back into the organization, to deal with it in-house," said ACORN President Maude Hurd. "It was a judgment call at the time, and looking back, people can agree or disagree with it, but we did what we thought was right."

The Consumers Rights League spokesman Jim Terry said, "ACORN has a long and sordid history of employing convoluted Enron-style accounting to illegally use taxpayer funds for their own political gain. Now it looks like ACORN is using the same type of convoluted accounting scheme for Obama's political gain."

ACORN did not respond to requests for a statement. However, they did refer to a statement by Ms. Hurd, in a Sept. 12 press release, saying, "ACORN has NEVER been indicted for voter fraud, violating elections laws or encouraging ineligible citizens to vote."

Michael P. Tremoglie can be reached at tremoglie@thebulletin.us

All those hundreds of thousands, millions, of illegal voters over the years, changing election results, negating the will of the legitimate citizen voters... all those illegal Democrat/Liberal voters.

[trik396]

Originally Posted by rpsmith

after all the dems motto is "vote early and vote often"

Wait a cotton picking minute... that is the motto of CHICAGO's democratic machine. I remember Jesse Jackson's operation push having bus loads of "patriotic" voters shipped in from everywhere to cast a ballot in my neck of the woods. One of these voters told me they were paid cash, given food, and drink (of course) to vote. No ID required. If I remember correctly many were from Indiana (Gary) and Wisconsin (Milwaukee).

THAT is Chicago machine politics. THAT is what Obama was born of...

should not surprise anyone...

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I will do so later, but I thought the allegations I made were common knowledge.

LOL

That is why you aren't taken seriously....

You make allegations and then fail to provide sources.

Saying that they are "common knowledge" is not providing a source.

Frank

[CrAz3D]

Receiving internship credit isn't too new of a concept, but here you have to put in a lot of time to get that credit. Nonetheless, you can get university credit for interning at a campaign.
However, my knowledge of this is limited to poli sci majors (my department )

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by CrAz3D

Receiving internship credit isn't too new of a concept, but here you have to put in a lot of time to get that credit. Nonetheless, you can get university credit for interning at a campaign.
However, my knowledge of this is limited to poli sci majors (my department )

You are correct.

I think the problem here is that they seem to be exclusively offering these credits for students who volunteer only for Obama.

Frank

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I will do so later, but I thought the allegations I made were common knowledge.

I hope you can do some valid research.

Frank is correct, you FAIL to provide supportive evidence, and often disappear, or change the subject when confronted in this fashion.

[.45XDTac]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahYeah
people voting twice, dead people voting...that's just the tip of the iceberg. don't be naive, Etta.

they have to because they do not win otherwise.

Quote:
American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary

naive na·ive or na·ïve (nä-ēv') or na·if or na·ïf (nä-ēf')
adj.

1. Lacking worldliness and sophistication.
2. Simple and credulous as a child.
3. Not previously subjected to experiments.
4. Not having previously taken or received a particular drug.

You ask for much.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jmichna

Supply proof of your allegations.

More ACORN:

Many shady Republican practices are listed here:

Black Box Voting

Security flaws in Diebold Software, and sudden Republican election winners


"A quiet revolution is taking place in US politics. By the time it's over, the integrity of elections will be in the unchallenged, unscrutinised control of a few large — and pro-Republican — corporations."

Something very odd happened in the mid-term elections in Georgia last November. On the eve of the vote, opinion polls showed Roy Barnes, the incumbent Democratic governor, leading by between nine and 11 points. In a somewhat closer, keenly watched Senate race, polls indicated that Max Cleland, the popular Democrat up for re-election, was ahead by two to five points against his Republican challenger, Saxby Chambliss.

Security flaws in Diebold Software, and sudden Republican election winners

Published on Thursday, August 28, 2003 by the Cleveland Plain Dealer
Voting Machine Controversy
by Julie Carr Smyth

COLUMBUS - The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

The Aug. 14 letter from Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. - who has become active in the re-election effort of President Bush - prompted Democrats this week to question the propriety of allowing O'Dell's company to calculate votes in the 2004 presidential election.

O'Dell attended a strategy pow-wow with wealthy Bush benefactors - known as Rangers and Pioneers - at the president's Crawford, Texas, ranch earlier this month. The next week, he penned invitations to a $1,000-a-plate fund-raiser to benefit the Ohio Republican Party's federal campaign fund - partially benefiting Bush - at his mansion in the Columbus suburb of Upper Arlington.

Diebold Voting Machine Owner Committed To Give Votes To Bush in 2004

Republican Owned Diebold E-Voting Flaws Could Compromise Elections


Diebold E-Voting Flaws Could Compromise Elections

Florida isn't crazy about optical scan voting devices slated to be
used in the state's presidential primary elections next year.

Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:00 PM PDT

Republican Owned Diebold E-Voting Flaws Could Compromise Elections

DNC to Investigate Ohio Voting Irregularities

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 7, 2004; Page A10

The leader of the Democratic National Committee announced yesterday that he will launch an investigation into voting irregularities in Ohio, where lines snaked outside some inner-city polling places on Election Day and provisional ballots were sometimes in short supply.

DNC to Investigate Ohio Voting Irregularities (washingtonpost.com)

A few examples.

[Etta Place]

On how Gore actually beat Bush and the unorthodox role played by the Supreme Court.

Gore's Victory

By Robert Parry
November 12, 2001

So Al Gore was the choice of Florida’s voters -- whether one counts hanging chads or dimpled chads. That was the core finding of the eight news organizations that conducted a review of disputed Florida ballots. By any chad measure, Gore won.

Gore won even if one doesn’t count the 15,000-25,000 votes that USA Today estimated Gore lost because of illegally designed “butterfly ballots,” or the hundreds of predominantly African-American voters who were falsely identified by the state as felons and turned away from the polls.

Gore won even if there’s no adjustment for George W. Bush’s windfall of about 290 votes from improperly counted military absentee ballots where lax standards were applied to Republican counties and strict standards to Democratic ones, a violation of fairness reported earlier by the Washington Post and the New York Times.

Put differently, George W. Bush was not the choice of Florida’s voters anymore than he was the choice of the American people who cast a half million more ballots for Gore than Bush nationwide.

The Consortium

None Dare Call It Treason
By Vincent Bugliosi
This article appeared in the February 5, 2001 edition of The Nation.

January 18, 2001

In the December 12 ruling by the US Supreme Court handing the election to George Bush, the Court committed the unpardonable sin of being a knowing surrogate for the Republican Party instead of being an impartial arbiter of the law. If you doubt this, try to imagine Al Gore's and George Bush's roles being reversed and ask yourself if you can conceive of Justice Antonin Scalia and his four conservative brethren issuing an emergency order on December 9 stopping the counting of ballots (at a time when Gore's lead had shrunk to 154 votes) on the grounds that if it continued, Gore could suffer "irreparable harm," and then subsequently, on December 12, bequeathing the election to Gore on equal protection grounds. If you can, then I suppose you can also imagine seeing a man jumping away from his own shadow, Frenchmen no longer drinking wine.

None Dare Call It Treason