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Old 09-23-2008, 11:49 AM   #11
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Of course you'd think so....heck with what the facts say huh

Are you seriously suggesting that only Democrats engage in shady voting practices?
 
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Im stating that recently, a majority of them have been democrat/liberal yes.

Facts to argue me?
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This is ridiculous, but not surprising coming from the PAC that was caught paying people with crack cocaine to fill out fraudulent registration cards for the democrats.

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Are you seriously suggesting that only Democrats engage in shady voting practices?
people voting twice, dead people voting...that's just the tip of the iceberg. don't be naive, Etta.

they have to because they do not win otherwise.
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people voting twice, dead people voting...that's just the tip of the iceberg. don't be naive, Etta.

they have to because they do not win otherwise.
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Are you seriously suggesting that only Democrats engage in shady voting practices?
Heard of ACORN?
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June 20th, 2008 by Republican By Default After several employees of the Tacoma ACORN office were indicted in Seattle, with the help of Tacoma prosecutors, we’re now learning more about corrupt practices within their organization.
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ACORN scandals blow-up


Union-backed, voter fraud group and Rathke brothers attract increasing scrutiny

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, is a network of nonprofit community groups formed nearly 40 years ago on the premise that banks, corporations and insurance companies, immersed in greed, have kept poor and predominantly minority neighborhoods desperate. Within the past couple months, however, its leaders have been engaged in the more mundane task of spinning a scandal that already has claimed its most visible leader. To longtime ACORN critics, it’s a case of belated just deserts.

At the center of this storm are ACORN co-founder and chief organizer Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale. Wade Rathke is an almost legendary figure in progressive Left circles. Beginning in the Sixties as an SDS activist, he would go on to apply his talents to the National Welfare Rights Organization, whose principle legacy during its years of existence was a large expansion of welfare eligibility and dependency. Out of this experience came ACORN in 1970.
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ANOTHER ACORN SCANDAL
Posted: 3:43 am
July 13, 2008
The folks at the far-left radical activist group ACORN are embroiled in a financial corruption and cover-up scandal that they managed to keep hidden from their donors and political partners for eight years.
Now their deception has been uncovered for all to see.
But is ACORN's leadership apologetic? Not in the slightest. "We did what we thought was right," said the group's president, Maude Hurd.
ACORN's founder - whose brother perpetrated the fraud - also defended the cover-up, saying publicity would have given the group's critics a "weapon."
As if there wasn't enough ammunition already to discredit ACORN.
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Thursday, October 26, 2006
Missouri ACORN Voter Fraud Scandal Makes the National News


Here's the latest on the Missouri ACORN/democratic voter fraud scandal...

Kansas City officials say this is the most irresponsible and extensive voter registration abuse in Missouri in the twenty five years they have been on the job with the Kansas City Board of Elections.

That's saying a lot considering there were 16 convictions of election crimes since 2004 in the St. Louis area alone!
Here's an article with a myriad of links to various ACORN scandals, illegal voter registration activities, bribery, and so on, see "Read More":
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Posted July 14, 2008 | 08:26 AM (EST)


Read More: Acorn, Acorn 8 Million, Acorn Attorney General Scanadal, Acorn Embezzle, Acorn Embezzlement, Acorn Housing, Acorn Radio, Acorn Scandal, Acorn Wage, Acorn Wages, Bertha Lewis, Bertha Lewis Acorn, Dale Rathke, David Iglesias, Financial Justice Center And The Living Wage Resource Center, In Justice David Iglesias, Kabf, Knon, Rathke Acorn, Wade Dale Rathke, Wade Rathke, Wade Rathke ACORN, Off The Bus News


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By Peter Dreier and John Atlas
For 38 years, ACORN, the nation's most successful community organizing group, has been making headlines by mobilizing low-income Americans to fight for social justice, challenging powerful banks, corporations, and government officials around such issues as wages for the working poor, predatory lending and foreclosures, welfare reform, public education, affordable housing, and voting rights. But the story about ACORN in last Wednesday's New York Times is one headline that the group was hoping to avoid....
A 30 second Google search using the terms "ACORN + scandal" turned up 145,000 hits.



More to follow....
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Heard of ACORN?




Here's an article with a myriad of links to various ACORN scandals, illegal voter registration activities, bribery, and so on, see "Read More":A 30 second Google search using the terms "ACORN + scandal" turned up 145,000 hits.



More to follow....
Well, the Republicans don't need organizations like ACORN. They just steal elections through corrupt state officials, campaign contributors supplying the voting machines, and with the Supreme Court.
 
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Obama, Ayers, Annenberg, and ACORN: a family affair?

August 21, 2008 by texasdarlin


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Introduction
In the past few days, we’ve published three articles separately that now appear to possibly be connected. Comments and feedback from readers got us thinking, then digging. We’ve been trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together, but we haven’t been able to do that yet, not completely. So the purpose of this post is to set forth a few observations and questions. We hope to turn this into a longer follow-on story.
In a nutshell, we believe that there are links worth investigating between the Barack Obama campaign, William Ayers, the Annenbergs, and ACORN.
The three stories that may be connected in ways that we initially did not realize, are:
Obama’s Caucus Fraud Trick: how the delegates were “won”.
The Annenberg Files: ACCESS BLOCKED!
Obama, ACORN, Citizen Services Inc: False FEC Filings; and
A Few Facts and Observations First, keep in mind: Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.
William (Bill) Ayers, unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist and a friend of the Obamas, was instrumental in founding the Challenge, thanks to his ties to Mayor Richard Daley. The first Daley was also a pal of Thomas Ayers, Bill’s father, former CEO of ComEd (owned by Exelon).
[Incidentally, the current CEO of ComEd, Frank M. Clark, is a major money bundler for the Obama campaign.]
You’ll recall from Wednesday’s story that the Annenberg files have suddenly been locked down under mysterious circumstances, after a reporter was promised access.
Factcheck.org, used as a resource by so many who wish to “debunk” negative coverage of Obama, is also a Division, or Project, of the Annenberg Foundation.
You’ll recall that Factcheck was the second site to publish the now-suspect Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) reportedly received from the Obama campaign.
[The Annenberg Foundation and family has an interesting history that we may examine in more detail.]
Second, keep in mind that ACORN has received payments of nearly a million dollars from the Barack Obama Campaign in 2008, as NancyA reported on this blog Aug. 15. Apparently the payments were funneled through Citizens Services Inc., and may have been falsely reported to the FEC.
The Senator has been working with ACORN since his first days as a Community Organizer in Chicago:
“In 1992, Acorn Hired Mr. Obama To Run A Voter Registration Effort. He Later Became A Trainer For The Group, As Well As Its Lawyer In Election Law Cases.” (John Fund, Op-Ed, “Obama’s Liberal Shock Troops,” “The Wall Street Journal”, 7/12/08 )
and
Representing ACORN, Obama And Other Attorneys Sued The State Of Illinois, Forcing It To Implement Federal “Motor Voter” Legislation That Makes It Easier For The Poor And Minorities To Register To Vote.” (”Some Cases Obama Worked On In His Career As An Attorney,” “The Associated Press”, 2/20/07). Hence again impartiality is not possible.
More Press Quotes on ACORN:
ACORN Used “In Your Face” Tactics Like Disrupting Hearings, Bursting Into City Council Meetings, And Protesting Mayor’s Homes. (Stanley Kurtz, Op-Ed, “Inside Obama’s Acorn,” “National Review”, 5/29/08 )
ACORN Has Been Accused Of Voter Fraud In 13 StatesSince 2004 And Was Convicted Of Falsifying Signatures In A Voter Registration Drive Last July, Drawing A Fine Of $25,000 In Washington State.” (Editorial, “George Soros: The Man, The Mind And The Money Behind MoveOn,” “Investor’s Business Daily”, 9/21/07)
“ACORN Has Been Implicated In Similar Schemes In 14 Other States - Including Ohio, Where A Worker Traded Crack Cocaine For Fraudulent Registrations.” (Editorial, “Another ACORN Scandal,” “New York Post”, 7/13/08 )
[Notice that the first of these quotes is from the very man (Kurtz, from National Review) who has been denied access on flimsy, and possibly illegal grounds, to the Annenberg Files.]
Meanwhile, keep in mind: ACORN has been a beneficiary of grants from the Chicago-based Woods Fund, which has a history of issuing controversial grants. Ayres and Obama served together on the Fund’s board (and are still listed). [Other grantees during their tenure included PLO employee Rashid Khalidi and the Obamas' church, Trinity United.]
Conclusions
Are you starting to see the potential connections and conflicts of interest? Here’s what we see:
1. Potential conflict of interest between Obama and anything funded by the Annenbergs, including Factcheck.org. [For starters, why were they one of only a small handful of media to get a copy of the COLB?]
2. Obvious conflict of interest between Obama and ACORN: He has been directly involved in funding ACORN, has worked for ACORN, and is now PAYING ACORN in exchange for assistance to his campaign.
3. What kind of assistance is ACORN providing the campaign? When we read about ACORN’s expertise in “voter fraud” and “in-your-face” tactics, it instantly reminded us of Obama’s caucus fraud tricks (see Wednesday’s story).
4. Is there a direct connection between the Annenberg Foundation and ACORN, or are they just three degrees of separation apart, with Ayres and Obama smack in the middle? We are curious about that. [Walter Annenberg, founder of the $500 million gift that funded the Annenberg Challenge, had deeply rooted Chicago ties that clearly intersect with some of the same ties to Thomas and William Ayres.]
We hope to continue this story…
REFERENCES: Annenberg Institutions
University of Chicago, “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years”
National Review, “Chicago Annenberg Challenge Shutdown?”
The Wall Street Journal, “Obama’s Liberal Shock Troops”
The National Review, “Inside Obama’s ACORN”
The New York Post, “Another ACORN Scandal”
FreeOnlineLibrary, “The Acorn Doesn’t Fall Far From the Tree”
Uppity Woman Blog, “Interesting Money Bundlers for Obama”
Wikipedia, “Bill Ayres”
Wikipedia, “Woods Fund of Chicago”
hickeysite blog, “Obama Myth Rooted in Ayres/Annenberg Gangster Gore”
More references available.
You would literally have to be living out of a cave, with no access to electronic or print media not to know that ACORN has been involved in illicit voters registration in every state in the union, for decades. You would have to be blind, deaf and dumb to not know that the goal of ACORN is registering reliably Democrat/Liberal voters.... millions of them.

0bama himself used ACORN resources to get 150,000 IL voters registered while he was a "community activist."
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Well, the Republicans don't need organizations like ACORN. They just steal elections through corrupt state officials, campaign contributors supplying the voting machines, and with the Supreme Court.
Supply proof of your allegations.

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Acorn's scandal

The scandal over embezzling from the grassroots organization ACORN by the brother of founder Wade Rathke draws attention again today in the New York Times. It reports that a wealthy man, Drummond Pike, who is a friend of Rathke, paid off the note by which the Rathke family promised to make good on the nearly $1 million in missing money, discovered in 2000. (This story is of interest here because Rathke lived for years in Little Rock, where Acorn get its start and remains a grassroots force. Also, a current Acorn leader in Little Rock, Zach Pollett, is quoted on efforts in the organization to keep the behind-the-scenes bailout quiet.)
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Supply proof of your allegations.

More ACORN:

I will do so later, but I thought the allegations I made were common knowledge.
 
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