Dr. James Dobson supports McCain/Palin

[Reeek]

Dobson's opinion means about as much as a POS to me.

He's a narrow minded, two or three issue "shepard" of a huge flock of sheep who will pretty much do anything he says and it's time for that flock of sheep to change pastures. He is the antithesis of what God wants a Christian to be as far as I'm concerned. He should focus his energy on coverting human life for Christ, one human at a time, not try to convert an entire country to his God and his religion worse yet. He may as well call himself Ayatollah Rouhollah Mousavi Khomeini Dobson for crying out loud. If the evangelical movement had their way the United States of America would be a Ecclesiocracy based on Christianity.

Here's my take; if EVERY Republican politician, especially presidential candidates and/or incumbents waged war for the three big issues of the evangelical agenda every single day that still wouldn't be good enough because they to want federally legislate against abortion, gay marriage and keeping God in our Government. If they won that battle (God forbid!) they would find another reason to stomp their feet and manipulate some candidates to "embrace" "new" evangelical causes. The issue of the day . . . The last resort if they had nothing to champion for would be a "are you Christian enough" litmus test.

They just need a reason to keep themselves on the politcal front page waging their war for a Christian State. America, God's chosen country.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Reeek

Dobson's opinion means about as much as a POS to me.

He's a narrow minded, two or three issue "shepard" of a huge flock of sheep who will pretty much do anything he says and it's time for that flock of sheep to change pastures. He is the antithesis of what God wants a Christian to be as far as I'm concerned. He should focus his energy on coverting human life for Christ, one human at a time, not try to convert an entire country to his God and his religion worse yet. He may as well call himself Ayatollah Rouhollah Mousavi Khomeini Dobson for crying out loud. If the evangelical movement had their way the United States of America would be a Ecclesiocracy based on Christianity.

Here's my take; if EVERY Republican politician, especially presidential candidates and/or incumbents waged war for the three big issues of the evangelical agenda every single day that still wouldn't be good enough because they to want federally legislate against abortion, gay marriage and keeping God in our Government. If they won that battle (God forbid!) they would find another reason to stomp their feet and manipulate some candidates to "embrace" "new" evangelical causes. The issue of the day . . . The last resort if they had nothing to champion for would be a "are you Christian enough" litmus test.

They just need a reason to keep themselves on the politcal front page waging their war for a Christian State. America, God's chosen country.

I keep telling everyone how classy you are, but you always seem to outdo yourself....

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by AwPhuch

Just like many swing voters and libertarians..all McCain had to do was show abit more conservatism view well when he got her he pulled all those that were waiting back to his side...tore the sails out of the DNC, and pretty much said nyah nyah to Hill-Dog

It was a very very good poilitical move on his part!

I agree....

[Reeek]

Originally Posted by justgotback

I keep telling everyone how classy you are, but you always seem to outdo yourself....

Thanks

[Son of Norway]

Dobson is a tool. Some of his wisdom:

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

James Dobson's Sure Fire Way Not to Raise a Homo


James Dobson, of Focus on the Family fame, has a sure fired way to ensure you son will not be a flamer.

Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

So, dads, don't want your son to grow up gay? Just make sure to wrestle with them, shower with them, and show him your penis a lot. Is it just me, or does that not sound like the activities that would "create" a homosexual?

Focus on the Family... or should it be "Focus on the Penis."

The Barking Dingo: James Dobson's Sure Fire Way Not to Raise a Homo

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

Dobson is a tool. Some of his wisdom:

Wednesday, August 17, 2005

James Dobson's Sure Fire Way Not to Raise a Homo


James Dobson, of Focus on the Family fame, has a sure fired way to ensure you son will not be a flamer.

Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

So, dads, don't want your son to grow up gay? Just make sure to wrestle with them, shower with them, and show him your penis a lot. Is it just me, or does that not sound like the activities that would "create" a homosexual?

Focus on the Family... or should it be "Focus on the Penis."

The Barking Dingo: James Dobson's Sure Fire Way Not to Raise a Homo

That quote is taken from a blogger. I looked to find that being said by Dobson. Not calling you out, just I find it very hard to believe he would say something such as this. Can you show me where he said this? I looked at his site, it isn't there. My wife is interested in seeing where he said that as well. It is very discouraging if this is the case.

[Reeek]

I believe that came from his book Bringing Up Boys . . .

[Son of Norway]

It came from an article on his website that has since been removed, likely from the wierd reaction it got.

[Son of Norway]

My point is, I consider Dobson a right-wing radical that helps the Replublican cause in the same fashion that Al Sharpton helps the Democrats. You don't have to dig far to find his hatred of anything he considers "un-Christian". And we all know what a great Christian virtue hatred is...

[Reeek]

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

My point is, I consider Dobson a right-wing radical that helps the Replublican cause in the same fashion that Al Sharpton helps the Democrats. You don't have to dig far to find his hatred of anything he considers "un-Christian". And we all know what a great Christian virtue hatred is...

Good analogy. Sharpton is a tool as well. Major tool.

Intolerance is the word of the day with the evangelical element of the Republican party. Do as they believe or you're immoral.

Sometimes I wonder how much more the White House and Congress could accomplish for the AMERCIAN people if they focused ALL of their energy on the Amercan people as a whole rather than their own and trying to legislate their own beliefs on the whole of the country. They do not have a monopoly on morals. Their morals are their definition and their bible's definition.

My experience is that they don't even follow the Golden Rule in so far as they will not give you the time of day if you don't follow their way. Even if you treated them as you would be treated yourself.

To qualify my opinion, I grew up in a born again Assembly of God world. I was raised in Modesto, CA which is in the middle of the California Bible Belt Central Valley and my life was centered around that life and their beliefs until I was old enough to leave my parent's house. My mom and Dad lost $15000 to Jim Bakker Ministries and still forgave him because Satan was the reason he cheated them and did all the bad things he did. Plus Tammy Faye stood behind him like a good Christian woman. I experienced equal levels of deceipt, lies, cheats, false witness, adultery and malice as the general population in those years. They are no better and no worse than the general population when it comes to immoral human propensity and even crime. The just have Satan to blame. They are gay, cheaters, abusers, drug addicts, thieves, you name it. Just like the general population that they believe is going to hell.

My father beat my mother if she didn't give him his nightly barbiturate that she had a prescription for all the while calling himself a Christian and banishing me for drinking beer or smoking pot. I had to stop him from abusing my mother nightly from the time I was old enough to know he was beating her if she cut him off from her pills. My grandfather, a big shot in the Full Gospel Business Men's Association was a closet alcoholic. His only son, a self proclaimed Christian, my mother's brother, died from an accidental overdose because he was so drunk he forgot how many pills he took. They found him in his car on a hot day on Portland, bloated like a whale two days after he died, with the windows rolled up. My dad used to pick up on the 14 year old babysitter when he thought I was asleep. All these people called me unfit and a sinner and not good enough to be their son and grandson because I didn't accept God as my personal savior. I also drank beer and smoked pot as a late teenager. The parents of an early teens girlfriend of mine concocted a story throughout the church that I stuck a garden hose in their window and flooded their house because they disallowed me to date their daughter. I was 16 years old and the only crime I ever committed was not being a good enough Christian boy and certainly not good enough for their daughter's hand. And this man was one of my dad's best friends and they played in a gospel band together. I never damaged any person's property in my life except to toilet paper someone's house. By the way, her father was a deacon in the church. I didn't do it. In fact, their washing machine hose burst.

Sorry for ranting but, "they" do not have a monopoly on goodness and fairness and morals and civility. They wear blinders and do and think as they are told all the while they are the same as any other human being and should save the judgement for God.

Dobson and everyone who believes like him are to be judged by me, not just God. It's my right to consider him a tool and a self serving POS. If A Christian acted like a Christian and tried to convert me and not judge me, I would respect them but those who point their own dirty finger at me can take a hike and please stay out of my government . . .