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Old 08-22-2008, 11:44 PM   #1
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Angry Don't vaccinate your kids? Forced vac's coming

Before reading this keep in mind that mandatory vaccinations for 10 years old getting Gardisil (which is a vac for a cervical cancer that is SEXUALLY transmitted) and we all have seen how that has turned out dozens dead hundreds with severe mental damage ect. ect. mandatory varicella (aka chicken pox) vac's... how many of us got chicken pox and did just fine? rhetorical obviously....

Vaccine-wary parents spark public health worry - Kids and parenting - MSNBC.com

Very selectively quoted, you need to read the story for yourself.

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"Vaccine-wary parents spark public health worry
More opt out for fear of reactions, but do they endanger everyone else?"

For some parents, however, the risk of contracting the disease is not reason enough to vaccinate.

"I think a child's immune system is so immature," said Jennifer Margulis, 39, an Ashland writer who didn’t vaccinate her three children at all for years, and then selectively immunized them only for a trip to West Africa. "You're putting known toxins in a child before they're 2 years old."

Hesperus, 9, Athena, 7, and Etani, 4, have not received standard immunizations given to more than 90 percent of U.S. children eligible to receive them. They've received vaccinations for yellow fever, meningitis, tetanus and polio, for instance, but not for measles, mumps, rubella, pertussis or chicken pox.

“If you read the list of ingredients about what you’re putting intramuscularly into your child, it’s scary,” said Margulis. “They’re not just giving you a little dose of dead bacteria.”

Increasingly, parents are opting not to vaccinate or, more often, to vaccinate selectively because they don’t trust the safety conclusions of the federal government or medical groups such as the American Academy of Pediatrics, said Barbara Loe Fisher, co-founder and president of the National Vaccine Information Center in Vienna, Va.

“Doctors have become inappropriately comfortable writing off any reaction (to vaccines) as being a coincidence,” said Fisher, who believes her oldest son, Christian, developed learning disabilities and attention deficit disorder after a vaccination in 1980. “People are losing their faith in the system.”

Some more vulnerable to vaccines
Mandatory vaccine requirements in many states endanger children who may be genetically vulnerable to reactions, essentially marginalizing their risk for the sake of the larger population, Fisher said.

Once you decide that individuals are expendable in the name of the greater good, how many is too many?” she said. “You can decide that it’s OK to throw some people under the bus because that’s the price of doing business.”

“People say, ‘You’re putting my kid at risk, but that doesn’t make any sense at all,’” she said. “If the vaccine works, I’m just putting my child at risk.” Video

One of the biggest issues is that parents think they’re safe to make this decision,” said Peg Crowley the director of the Community Health Center.
Only the "village" can raise a child right?
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:52 PM   #2
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Vaccines don't cause downs syndrome or any of the other bogus crap that is attributed to them.

Also, there is an interest in society at large vaccinating their kids. How do you think we eradicate debilitating diseases? Polio ring a bell? Yeah, small pox? hrm....

Nope, too dangerous to vaccinate your kid against something that could really kill them....give me a break
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Old 08-22-2008, 11:57 PM   #3
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While I am generally not in favor of telling parents how to raise their Children, I have seen the horrors that infectious disease can cause. The potential for danger stretches BEYOND your children to anyone they may come in contact with.

Additionally, you'll never find any legitimate evidence that vaccinations have resulted in most of the "syndromes" associated with them. People who claim so are often completely uneducated and unfamiliar with how vaccinations work.

Yes, in VERY slim cases attenuated vaccine strains can result in primary infection, but the chances of contracting the same disease when one has not been vaccinated are FAR greater.

I'm amazed at the number of people who buy into this false homeopathic medicine hype. The same folks that refuse to vaccinate their children sometimes force feed the near toxic levels of selenium and colloidal silver at the advice of some bitty in the hair-shop and her quack practitioner's book she read from this week.
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Old 08-23-2008, 01:29 AM   #4
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I have no problem with mandated vaccines for infectious diseases, but cervical cancer is not one of them. This is strictly the province of the parent...especially for girls under the age of majority.
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Speaking of transmitted, do they throw in a free RFID chip with the forced vaccinations?
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People who claim so are often completely uneducated and unfamiliar with how vaccinations work.

I'll let you slide with your inclusion of 'often' but you might want to rethink this. My wife and I have 5 degrees combined and I'm looking at adding a JD starting in 09.

We are going to delay the MMR, the vaccine that is most in question about causing or exacerbating a preexisting disposition for Autism. By delaying it until the child is three it greatly reduces the rate of diagnosed Autism in test studies. Does this mean that Autism is caused by the vaccine? No, but there is some correlation; regardless, if there is a rate reduction (to whatever extent) I owe it to my son to not expose him. Now the other infectious diseases we are on schedule with what the government suggests. The MMR contains high levels of aluminum which has been shown to adhere to certain receptors in the brain causing a host of issues.

Let me restate, I'm not an MD but our Pediatrician supports our decision and has given us as much information as possible.
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The rise in reported cases of autism directly relates to the widening of the spectrum for diagnosing autism.
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I'll let you slide with your inclusion of 'often' but you might want to rethink this. My wife and I have 5 degrees combined and I'm looking at adding a JD starting in 09.

We are going to delay the MMR, the vaccine that is most in question about causing or exacerbating a preexisting disposition for Autism. By delaying it until the child is three it greatly reduces the rate of diagnosed Autism in test studies. Does this mean that Autism is caused by the vaccine? No, but there is some correlation; regardless, if there is a rate reduction (to whatever extent) I owe it to my son to not expose him. Now the other infectious diseases we are on schedule with what the government suggests. The MMR contains high levels of aluminum which has been shown to adhere to certain receptors in the brain causing a host of issues.

Let me restate, I'm not an MD but our Pediatrician supports our decision and has given us as much information as possible.
Can you cite these studies?
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Speaking of transmitted, do they throw in a free RFID chip with the forced vaccinations?
Hey, your tax dollars paid for it ... Why refuse something you have paid for
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