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hacker15 · 08-21-2008, 07:15 PM

How could this guy be so admired by about half the American population, and at the same time mock the very foundation that this country was built upon?

The very country God has raised up is admiring a new leader who mocks Him this way? Forgive me if I don't understand, but I thought Obama touts himself as a 'Christen'. Did I miss something here?

The Bible talks about this kind of trend and where we are headed. How obvious do the signs need to be before everyone sees it?

http://www.youtube.com/v/4FCNKwHRCQM

afmo · 08-21-2008, 07:49 PM

we are a not christian nation, i challenge the notion that our foundations are inherently christian.

of the founding fathers there were 88 Episcopalians, 30 Presbyterians, 27 congregationalists, 7 Quakers, 6 Dutch Reformed, 5 Lutheran, 3 Catholic, 3 Huguenot, 3 Unitarians, 2 Methodists, and a Calvinist.

We are a secular nation with freedom of speech. I can't fault the Obamessiah on this one...

~EDIT forgot the word NOT

hacker15 · 08-22-2008, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

we are a not christian nation, i challenge the notion that our foundations are inherently christian.

of the founding fathers there were 88 Episcopalians, 30 Presbyterians, 27 congregationalists, 7 Quakers, 6 Dutch Reformed, 5 Lutheran, 3 Catholic, 3 Huguenot, 3 Unitarians, 2 Methodists, and a Calvinist.

We are a secular nation with freedom of speech. I can't fault the Obamessiah on this one...

~EDIT forgot the word NOT

Man, you don't know anything about religious theology if you think the various religions quoted above are non-Christian in basic concepts and fundamental teaching. All of them are based on Christianity.

The intent of the post is to show what an empty suit Obama is - he claims to be a Christian when it suits him, yet mocks that very religion. Yes, we have freedom of speech - but please, if you claim one thing to sway a religious audience, stick with the message in front of other audiences. All it proves is his lack of honesty (not surprising, based on the fact that he comes from one of the most corrupt political machines in the country - Cook County and Chicago).

**AZXD** · 08-22-2008, 08:22 AM

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**BaptistJihad** · 08-22-2008, 09:12 AM

Well for not being a Christian nation founded by Christians on Christian priniciples, there sure are a lot of federal buildings and money around disputing that premise.

Once elected, I am sure that Obama will be spending our tax dollars to remove all references to God in the government so we can be proper world citizens.

Ishpeck · 08-22-2008, 09:42 AM

*Sigh*

Why does anybody take that man seriously? Who cares what he says about the Bible? We all know he's a retard.

NDB_MN · 08-22-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afmo

we are a not christian nation, i challenge the notion that our foundations are inherently christian.

of the founding fathers there were 88 Episcopalians, 30 Presbyterians, 27 congregationalists, 7 Quakers, 6 Dutch Reformed, 5 Lutheran, 3 Catholic, 3 Huguenot, 3 Unitarians, 2 Methodists, and a Calvinist.

SO... in other words... a bunch of Christians.

It's undeniable that this country was founded closely along Christian-based principles, and I think it's great that we are grounded enough in LIBERTY to not force the Christian religion on our citizens.

As to the OP's post...

I think that Barack Obama's speech is really inexcusable here. The "people aren't reading their bibles" comment really peeves me. There's a difference between Obama between reading 'sound bytes' out of the bible like he did, and actually 'reading and comprehending' the surrounding context. Quote Leviticus and Deuteronomy? Sure they lay down a Jewish code of law for the time it was written, but don't forget that law wasn't even literally taken by Jesus' time; OF COURSE trying to apply 4,000 year old law sounds ridiculous now. Perhaps he missed the part, too, where the early Church excuses Gentiles from 99% of Jewish law? Sure Jesus preached peace, but don't forget Luke 22:36 where he suggests Christians arm themselves for the coming troubles.

The worst of it seems to be that Obama did this just to get a reaction. But really, if insulting scripture is necessary for him to get his point across he's going to have a tough road.

But I also think the video's format and commentary are pretty crappy, shallow, and anger-laced. Looks like it was thrown together and scripted by a high school kid. A lot more rational, hard-hitting commentary could have been stated about Obama's speech, and I think the video failed miserably at an intellectual rebuttal. Oh well.

yeahYeah · 08-22-2008, 10:25 AM

Obama will be whatever you want him to be!

CrAz3D · 08-22-2008, 10:31 AM

When did the Bible become relevant to sound public policy?

**AZXD** · 08-22-2008, 10:43 AM

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08-21-2008, 07:15 PM	#1
hacker15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upstate, NY Posts: 3,623	Obama On The Bible How could this guy be so admired by about half the American population, and at the same time mock the very foundation that this country was built upon? The very country God has raised up is admiring a new leader who mocks Him this way? Forgive me if I don't understand, but I thought Obama touts himself as a 'Christen'. Did I miss something here? The Bible talks about this kind of trend and where we are headed. How obvious do the signs need to be before everyone sees it? http://www.youtube.com/v/4FCNKwHRCQM __________________ If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man. Mark Twain

08-21-2008, 07:49 PM	#2
afmo XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 3,728	we are a not christian nation, i challenge the notion that our foundations are inherently christian. of the founding fathers there were 88 Episcopalians, 30 Presbyterians, 27 congregationalists, 7 Quakers, 6 Dutch Reformed, 5 Lutheran, 3 Catholic, 3 Huguenot, 3 Unitarians, 2 Methodists, and a Calvinist. We are a secular nation with freedom of speech. I can't fault the Obamessiah on this one... ~EDIT forgot the word NOT __________________ I survived 8 years of vitriolic hate directed towards George W. Bush. The shoe is on the other foot now: Barack Obama is NOT MY PRESIDENT. Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant Last edited by afmo; 08-21-2008 at 07:53 PM.

08-22-2008, 08:22 AM	#4
AZXD XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 17,197	I'm not surprised .... But it's way above my paygrade to comment further ... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... Blah Blah Blah .... And that's why He's The One __________________ . . The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. John F. Kennedy The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. John F. Kennedy *Birth Certificates are a "Reasonable"* Secret** So-called "reasonable gun control" measures will take us all to the day when the last single-shot shotgun that grandpa owned is cut into pieces.

08-22-2008, 09:12 AM	#5
BaptistJihad XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North Georgia Mountains Posts: 101	Well for not being a Christian nation founded by Christians on Christian priniciples, there sure are a lot of federal buildings and money around disputing that premise. Once elected, I am sure that Obama will be spending our tax dollars to remove all references to God in the government so we can be proper world citizens. __________________ Protection from Tyranny "The Second Amendment is the reset button for the Constitution" - Jim Quinn on the WarRoom "Fight like the third monkey trying to get on the Ark." visitwww.baptistjihad.com

08-22-2008, 09:42 AM	#6
Ishpeck XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 4,232	Sigh Why does anybody take that man seriously? Who cares what he says about the Bible? We all know he's a retard. __________________ When given a chance to issue letters of marque and reprisal against Bin Laden, Congress voted against it and instead, voted the Patriot Act into law. Tells you who they think their real enemies are. http://www.ishpeck.net/

08-22-2008, 10:25 AM	#8
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08-22-2008, 10:31 AM	#9
CrAz3D XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern New Mexico Posts: 979	When did the Bible become relevant to sound public policy? __________________ "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - TJ (Thomas Jefferson) Daily Crazed

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