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trik396 · 08-21-2008, 12:03 AM

Just received a notice of "RED LIGHT VIOLATION" via mail from the great city of Chitcago. Three VERY clear pics of my truck going thru the intersection allegedly during a red light. I live on the out skirts of the city and rarely venture further inland but they got me going to one of my banks... bastards. There goes a Benjamin to the mayors cofer.
And I say allegedly because I'm a careful driver and almost never speed or run lights etc. I believe the light was yellow until the instant I hit the intersection then it changed to red as there is plenty of traffic all around me in the picture. Just had to vent. I think I'll wipe my a$$ with the check before I mail it to the mayor. I also put nice comments in the memo portion of the check anytime I send checks to the city. "Mayor Daley sucks" or "Mayor Daley is a commie"... stuff like that.

Reeek · 08-21-2008, 12:12 AM

I'd take it to court anyway. I typically do just to exercise my civil rights. Last time I did the JoP reduced my fine and points by half just " for exercising my civil rights".

afmo · 08-21-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Reeek

I'd take it to court anyway. I typically do just to exercise my civil rights. Last time I did the JoP reduced my fine and points by half just " for exercising my cicil rights".

plus it will cost the city more if you fight it than they'll get for you paying it

i fight every parking ticket i've ever had, just so it will cost them more money than i'm sending them...

Dhunter55 · 08-21-2008, 03:14 AM

I have a habit of punching the gas on an amber light but I'm getting better about it. I'm now stopping on the amber and giving the camera a one finger salute.

You should squeeze a quote from the 2A in the memo section of your check.

Yuppicide · 08-21-2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dhunter55

You should squeeze a quote from the 2A in the memo section of your check.

They may take it as a "Threat", and then you'll get a visit from your friendly neighborhood SWAT team!!!!

Fight it, and if you lose....Pay for it with rolls of pennies!
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Dhunter55 · 08-21-2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

They may take it as a "Threat", and then you'll get a visit from your friendly neighborhood SWAT team!!!!

Fight it, and if you lose....Pay for it with rolls of pennies!
.

How about "DC vs. Heller" and a happy face?

**AZXD** · 08-21-2008, 04:35 AM

If it didn't come via certified mail and require a signature ... Trash it.

Wait for the third one to arrive, and then fight it by stating you never received the ticket.

**jmichna** · 08-21-2008, 07:57 AM

trik396,
Which intersection? I venture into Chicago on the N and NW sides pretty frequently.

Ride the Lightning · 08-21-2008, 09:38 AM

Wasn't that the day you loaned your car to a buddy? Or was it the day it was in the shop?

I was under the impression that traffic citations were issues to drivers, not cars. They have no way to prove that you were the one driving, but you also have no way to prove that you were not. I have had the DA stand in the court room and say that in the case of traffic citations you are guilty until proven innocent, so you may have an uphill battle. Check your local laws.

I've done my share of fighting traffic citations and won half of the time. It is a no win situation for you. Even if you win, you are still out some pay which probably far exceeds the cost of the ticket. If you lose you are out that plus the cost of the ticket and court costs. They have you over a barrel because you are the only one in the room regarding your case that isn't getting paid to be there. The system is designed for you to fail.

Carnivorous · 08-21-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

Wasn't that the day you loaned your car to a buddy? Or was it the day it was in the shop?

I was under the impression that traffic citations were issues to drivers, not cars. They have no way to prove that you were the one driving, but you also have no way to prove that you were not. I have had the DA stand in the court room and say that in the case of traffic citations you are guilty until proven innocent, so you may have an uphill battle. Check your local laws.

Citations are issued to car OWNERS. That's why you should be careful about who you let borrow your car---if they get a ticket and don't pay, it's on your head.

Driving is a privilege not a right, and if your car "mysteriously" ran a red light, it's your problem to figure out who was driving, not the state's problem. If your car T-bones somone in the intersection while running the light, whose insurance do you think will take the hit? Who do you think the cops will come after? Unless your car was stolen, it's your responsibility to control where it goes, no matter who drives it.

08-21-2008, 12:03 AM	#1
trik396 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: currently elsewhere Posts: 1,765	Big brother caught me! Just received a notice of "RED LIGHT VIOLATION" via mail from the great city of Chitcago. Three VERY clear pics of my truck going thru the intersection allegedly during a red light. I live on the out skirts of the city and rarely venture further inland but they got me going to one of my banks... bastards. There goes a Benjamin to the mayors cofer. And I say allegedly because I'm a careful driver and almost never speed or run lights etc. I believe the light was yellow until the instant I hit the intersection then it changed to red as there is plenty of traffic all around me in the picture. Just had to vent. I think I'll wipe my a$$ with the check before I mail it to the mayor. I also put nice comments in the memo portion of the check anytime I send checks to the city. "Mayor Daley sucks" or "Mayor Daley is a commie"... stuff like that. __________________ ‘‘When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it.’’ — Bill Clinton, 3-22-94

08-21-2008, 12:12 AM	#2
Reeek XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,785	I'd take it to court anyway. I typically do just to exercise my civil rights. Last time I did the JoP reduced my fine and points by half just " for exercising my civil rights". __________________ U.S Navy Veteran - CTT - Naval Security Group Guns: XD9SC with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights CZ P-01 with Meprolights - green/green EAA Witness (Tangfolio) Elite Match .45 Taurus PT1911 with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights Kel-Tec P3AT Fulton Armory FAR-15 Predator, 24" SS 1x12 Barrel w/Mueller TAC II Savage 93R17 BVSS .17 HMR Remington 870 18" 6+1 w/Choate Mark 6 Last edited by Reeek; 08-21-2008 at 11:13 AM. Reason: Typos

08-21-2008, 03:14 AM	#4
Dhunter55 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bikini Paradise Posts: 3,859	I have a habit of punching the gas on an amber light but I'm getting better about it. I'm now stopping on the amber and giving the camera a one finger salute. You should squeeze a quote from the 2A in the memo section of your check. __________________ Let the R3VOLution begin! Go Fins Last edited by Dhunter55; 08-21-2008 at 03:16 AM.

08-21-2008, 04:35 AM	#7
AZXD XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 16,619	If it didn't come via certified mail and require a signature ... Trash it. Wait for the third one to arrive, and then fight it by stating you never received the ticket. __________________ . . Prepare for the worst scenario and hope for the best!!! Ignorance is curable, but stupidity is fatal. When one is prepared, it gives them peace of mind and eliminates the panic button which often leads to unnecessary waste and tragedy. The so-called "reasonable gun control" measures will take us all to the day when the last single-shot shotgun that grandpa owned is cut into pieces.

08-21-2008, 07:57 AM	#8
jmichna XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NE Illinois Posts: 2,503	trik396, Which intersection? I venture into Chicago on the N and NW sides pretty frequently. __________________ "Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm." - James Madison, Federalist No. 10 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal distribution of blessings, the inherent vice of Socialism is the equal distribution of misery." - Sir Winston Churchill

08-21-2008, 09:38 AM	#9
Ride the Lightning XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 1,526	Wasn't that the day you loaned your car to a buddy? Or was it the day it was in the shop? I was under the impression that traffic citations were issues to drivers, not cars. They have no way to prove that you were the one driving, but you also have no way to prove that you were not. I have had the DA stand in the court room and say that in the case of traffic citations you are guilty until proven innocent, so you may have an uphill battle. Check your local laws. I've done my share of fighting traffic citations and won half of the time. It is a no win situation for you. Even if you win, you are still out some pay which probably far exceeds the cost of the ticket. If you lose you are out that plus the cost of the ticket and court costs. They have you over a barrel because you are the only one in the room regarding your case that isn't getting paid to be there. The system is designed for you to fail. __________________ Happiness is.....a belt fed weapon

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