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**AZXD** · 08-20-2008, 12:13 PM

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Potential Obama VP Is Pro-War, Pro-Patriot Act Neo-Con

Evan Bayh served with John McCain on neocon Committee for the Liberation of Iraq to propagandize for invasion in 2003

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Wednesday, August 20, 2008

The man who many are tipping to become Barack Obama’s running mate is a pro-war, pro-patriot act, Bilderberg member who was an honorary co-chair of the neocon Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, a group that aggressively propagandized for the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Ladies and gentlemen - meet Senator Evan Bayh.

“Top Democratic Party officials are expecting Sen. Barack Obama to select Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh as his running mate as early as midweek,” according to US News and World Report.

So exactly where do the sympathies of the Indiana Senator lie and do they jive with Barack Obama’s proclaimed platitude to be offering “change” in the upcoming presidential election?

According to Wikipedia, “On October 2, 2002, Bayh joined President George W. Bush and Congressional leaders in a Rose Garden ceremony announcing their agreement on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War, and was thanked by Bush and Senator John McCain for co-sponsoring the resolution.”

Not only that, but Bayh served as an honorary co-chair of the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq along with John McCain, Obama’s Republican adversary.

As Talking Points Memo notes, “The Committee is a neo-con group that was formed to propagandize the country into war. It boasted such illustrious neocon members as Bill Kristol, former CIA director James Woolsey, and even McCain senior foreign policy adviser and Chalabi-bamboozler Randy Scheunemann.”

In a February 2006 interview with the Washington Post, Bayh “refused, as some of his fellow Senators already had, to renounce his support for the war”.

Bayh also voted for the re-authorization of the USA Patriot Act in 2006.
The Senator is also a keen supporter of the pro-Israel lobby group AIPAC, having previously described his “lifelong affection for the state of Israel” at an AIPAC luncheon.

Bayh has warned that Iran is seeking a nuclear weapon, despite the National Intelligence Estimate having refuted this claim, and the Senator has also introduced sanctions against Iran, repeatedly denouncing the country with heated rhetoric on national television.

Bayh is also a Bilderberg Group kingpin, having not only attended its meeting but also giving a keynote speech at their 1999 confab in Sintra, Portugal.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Bayh is nothing more than another pro-war, pro destruction of the constitution, elitist neocon scumbag. What makes him more dangerous is that he is - just like Obama himself - a wolf in sheep’s clothing, camouflaging himself amidst the mindless rhetoric of “change” while in reality representing nothing more than the status quo.

yeahYeah · 08-20-2008, 12:15 PM

wow...obama's base will love this one. and he's white!

Reeek · 08-20-2008, 12:25 PM

That could be a good step toward tempering any zeal on either side . . .

Let's face it, someone needs to step up and truly try to satisfy both sides to a larger degree than they do today. Each party's litmus test is right out of the textbooks from the old days.

The only obstacle I see to this happening are the zealots on both sides of the aisle not budging on anything.

That's the real obstacle to compromise in politics today

A good example is Pelosi's recent openess to offshore drilling. Call it what you want, flip flop or a sign of weakness or whatever derogatory way you choose to describe it, the end result is that is what her constituents want, the majority of them anyway so just DO IT!

Calling her weak or a Turd Blossum favorite, a flip flopper, isn't going to help anyone who needs to alter their position when the constituency speaks out loud. That's what it's all about anyway and that's exactly what we often bitch about when it doesn't happen. My biggest complaint is the incumbent or candidate not altering their positions to follow the wishes of their constituents. It's almost like the attitude is such that once a party doctrine is established you can't ever alter it again. Screw that.

AwPhuch · 08-20-2008, 03:57 PM

Why do I feel that if the whiteguy is 0bama's Veep and 0bama wins..his plane will somehow magically fall out of the sky or something

**grandpatim** · 08-20-2008, 05:46 PM

Evan Byah on guncontrol. Fourtenth item down on the page.

Evan Bayh on the Issues

Voted YES on prohibiting foreign & UN aid that restricts US gun ownership. (Sep 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999)
Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)

**AZXD** · 08-21-2008, 04:42 AM

Gaining voters and loosing voters ... All at the same time.

**eric_t12** · 08-21-2008, 07:33 AM

...never lost my vote.

...never had it to lose.

**AZXD** · 08-21-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eric_t12

...never lost my vote.

...never had it to lose.

Brickboy240 · 08-21-2008, 10:14 AM

Obamas other choice for Veep is a known plagarist.

He has quite a cast put together!

- brickboy240

**AZXD** · 08-21-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Obamas other choice for Veep is a known plagarist.

He has quite a cast put together!

- brickboy240

Yea ... Well ... Look at the people he has associations with

Someone else is gonna have to choose for him. He's a bad judge of character.

08-20-2008, 12:15 PM	#2
yeahYeah XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas Posts: 9,679	wow...obama's base will love this one. and he's white! __________________ MOΛΩN ΛABÉ "You got on British Knights and I ain't seen those sine 1987" - Red (Pineapple Express) If we don't take action now We settle for nothing later Settle for nothing now And we'll settle for nothing later A Place for Nevada Gun Owners: http://www.nevadashooters.com

08-20-2008, 12:25 PM	#3
Reeek XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 1,787	That could be a good step toward tempering any zeal on either side . . . Let's face it, someone needs to step up and truly try to satisfy both sides to a larger degree than they do today. Each party's litmus test is right out of the textbooks from the old days. The only obstacle I see to this happening are the zealots on both sides of the aisle not budging on anything. That's the real obstacle to compromise in politics today A good example is Pelosi's recent openess to offshore drilling. Call it what you want, flip flop or a sign of weakness or whatever derogatory way you choose to describe it, the end result is that is what her constituents want, the majority of them anyway so just DO IT! Calling her weak or a Turd Blossum favorite, a flip flopper, isn't going to help anyone who needs to alter their position when the constituency speaks out loud. That's what it's all about anyway and that's exactly what we often bitch about when it doesn't happen. My biggest complaint is the incumbent or candidate not altering their positions to follow the wishes of their constituents. It's almost like the attitude is such that once a party doctrine is established you can't ever alter it again. Screw that. __________________ U.S Navy Veteran - CTT - Naval Security Group Guns: XD9SC with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights CZ P-01 with Meprolights - green/green EAA Witness (Tangfolio) Elite Match .45 Taurus PT1911 with Heinie Straight 8 Night Sights Kel-Tec P3AT Fulton Armory FAR-15 Predator, 24" SS 1x12 Barrel w/Mueller TAC II Savage 93R17 BVSS .17 HMR Remington 870 18" 6+1 w/Choate Mark 6 Last edited by Reeek; 08-20-2008 at 04:15 PM. Reason: Typos

08-20-2008, 03:57 PM	#4
AwPhuch XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 726	Why do I feel that if the whiteguy is 0bama's Veep and 0bama wins..his plane will somehow magically fall out of the sky or something __________________ "If you stand up and be counted, from time to time you may get yourself knocked down. But remember this: A man flattened by an opponent can get up again. A man flattened by conformity stays down for good. " ~ Thomas J. Watson, Jr. ./S99 LinuxRevolution start Si vis pacem, para bellum

08-20-2008, 05:46 PM	#5
grandpatim XDTalk Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brownfield, Texas Posts: 84	Evan Byah on guncontrol. Fourtenth item down on the page. Evan Bayh on the Issues Voted YES on prohibiting foreign & UN aid that restricts US gun ownership. (Sep 2007) Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005) Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004) Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999) Voted NO on more penalties for gun & drug violations. (May 1999) Voted NO on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999) Prevent unauthorized firearm use with "smart gun" technology. (Aug 2000)

08-21-2008, 04:42 AM	#6
AZXD XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 17,197	Gaining voters and loosing voters ... All at the same time. __________________ . . The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all. John F. Kennedy The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings. John F. Kennedy *Birth Certificates are a "Reasonable"* Secret** So-called "reasonable gun control" measures will take us all to the day when the last single-shot shotgun that grandpa owned is cut into pieces. Last edited by AZXD; 08-21-2008 at 07:51 AM. Reason: spelling

08-21-2008, 07:33 AM	#7
eric_t12 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SD Posts: 3,774	...never lost my vote. ...never had it to lose. __________________ FBI: Gun Owners are Potential Terrorists Our Economic Future: GAO 21st Century Challenges The Police Have No Duty To Protect You VFW Life Member GOA Life Member "There are lots of problems, but if you destroy the dollar, you're going to destroy a worldwide economy, and that's what we're doing." Ron Paul - Speech on the house floor 29SEP2008 opposing the reworked economic 'rescue' plan

08-21-2008, 10:14 AM	#9
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