ALERT: This forum is an anti-Obama propaganda site

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

Hmm, so a gun is a living, breathing thing? What type of gun do you have? Because I need one of those!

I believe it is a woman's choice to have an abortion and it should be legal for the simple fact that if it isn't, it will be done by unlicensed, unqualified "doctors" and it will end up injuring the woman. I am for an abortion if it is a life or death situation. If a woman, like your 14 year old sister, gets knocked up and decides in the first few weeks that she wants an abortion, so be it. But I don't agree that a woman can up and decide at week 20 or later that she wants an abortion so they induce labor and then stab scissors in the baby's skull and suck out the brain. That is inhumane. We wouldn't allow that kind of treatment on animals, so why is a human baby any different? Furthermore, Obama is okay with delivering the baby and then tossing it aside, while still alive, and letting it die on its own. That is sickening and that is infanticide.

Who in the world would favor the procedures you describe? That right there is propaganda.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

You mean like the left's hero filmmaker, Michael Moore?

You mean like media mogul, Rupert Murdoch?

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by amishclark

i agree...and this is the last thing i'm going to say on this (respond if you want) because we're getting away from bashing etta (). you and i and everyone here likely views any restriction on gun ownership as a step in the wrong direction...one that inevitably means gun ownership will be a thing of the past. at the very least, it makes further restrictions easier to put in place. right? so imagine feeling so passionate about the right to have a safe, legal abortion. where does the restriction stop? can't you see that it's the same arguement, but on a completely different subject?

I understand your agreement, and in a sense agree with you that incrementalism is a bad thing. However, I view life a little a differently. There are so many people in this world who can not have children, or at the very least have a very difficult time conceiving that it destroys them that other people have absolutely no value or respect for human life. My feelings on this come from a personal level so I wouldn't expect everyone to understand and that is fine.

Now, back to our regular scheduled bashing!

[RogueXD]

I know there is always two parts, but you (in general) cannot force someone Not have a right to make their own decisions. A woman has the right to make the decision, even if the population doesn't like it. BO is not going to make decision for me! So, thats why we have the right to vote.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

I understand your agreement, and in a sense agree with you that incrementalism is a bad thing. However, I view life a little a differently. There are so many people in this world who can not have children, or at the very least have a very difficult time conceiving that it destroys them that other people have absolutely no value or respect for human life. My feelings on this come from a personal level so I wouldn't expect everyone to understand and that is fine.

Now, back to our regular scheduled bashing!

Let me say that even though I am pro choice (although I do favor restrictions), I agree with you that there are people who have no value or respect for human life, and some of these people get abortions.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Who in the world would favor the procedures you describe? That right there is propaganda.

It absolutely is not! Obama is completely for the procedure, and his wife has gone out to raise money to SUPPORT the procedure!!! That IS fact...Obama supports partial birth abortion, and I can never bring myself to support anyone who would vote FOR such a horrible procedure, or murder of a child as I see it....

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

You mean like media mogul, Rupert Murdoch?

Didn't he have at least one fund raiser for Hillary Clinton? Is that the Rupert Murdoch you are talking about?

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Who in the world would favor the procedures you describe? That right there is propaganda.

Here is a quote from the article Frenchy posted written by Buchanan.

"Yet, when Congress was voting to ban this terrible form of death for a mature fetus, Michelle Obama was signing fundraising letters pledging that, if elected, Barack would be "tireless" in keeping legal this "legitimate medical procedure."

That disgusts me.......

[Palmguy]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Who in the world would favor the procedures you describe?

Senator Barack Obama, D-IL

[longtalltechsan]

How in the world did we get a presidential candidate that up until the last election, was unknown? Had it not been for his 'inspiring' speech at the DNC convention, there is no way he would be where he is now. According to some reports, since being elected to the senate, he has actually been in the office only 143 days and now he is a serious presidential candidate. He hardly has any experience and his policies and stance on issues are ones that would make the founding fathers roll over in their graves. To his credit, the only thing I can see about him is that he is a good speaker, when he has a teleprompter or prepared remarks. It does not help that millions of people follow him religiously like he is the messiah. They hang on his every word and are smitten with him. This guy has absolutely no clue and we are about to hand him the toughest job in the world, when I wouldn't want him mowing the grass at my house. What is it with this country? It is said that Obama will be a good leader, but isn't a good leader that could lead his followers over a cliff without any of them asking why? Is that what we want?

Now, McCain is no peach, and some of his ideas on the issues really suck, but he is by far more qualified and has more of the experience needed to do the job, not to mention the familiarity of the issues and tasks at hand.

How in the hell did we get into this situation?