ALERT: This forum is an anti-Obama propaganda site

[RogueXD]

Originally Posted by jmichna

Well, then who gets killed during an abortion? Ain't Mom, Pop or Doc.

You know, it always cracks me up that those who favor abortion have already been born... they don't have a dog in the hunt. No skin off their nose.

duh.. bad quote... you can't hear the opinon from something that is dead..
Its the woman's choice.. period.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Please tell us what your definition of "propaganda" is.

It seems that all opinion/articles that you don't agree with get labeled as such.

Propaganda is taking selected "facts," while leaving out the context in which that fact was established, and using it to create an emotional response.

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by amishclark

my sister is 14, very intelligent, and a very talented rider of horses. if she got knocked up, and she didn't want the baby, i would consider it a punishment. yes, she should have been more careful. yes, she should be able to decide in the first trimester whether or not she wants to keep the baby...blah blah blah.

but your argument holds no water...gun laws are generally viewed as all or nothing in this camp, right? "the anti's will strip our rights to own guns one small step at a time...first it's assault rifles. then it's mag capacity. then..." or some such bullsh!t. well it's the same for abortion rights. the simple fact that you don't agree with anyone having an abortion does not make your argument hold. there are many who don't agree with gun ownership.

Hmm, so a gun is a living, breathing thing? What type of gun do you have? Because I need one of those!

I believe it is a woman's choice to have an abortion and it should be legal for the simple fact that if it isn't, it will be done by unlicensed, unqualified "doctors" and it will end up injuring the woman. I am for an abortion if it is a life or death situation. If a woman, like your 14 year old sister, gets knocked up and decides in the first few weeks that she wants an abortion, so be it. But I don't agree that a woman can up and decide at week 20 or later that she wants an abortion so they induce labor and then stab scissors in the baby's skull and suck out the brain. That is inhumane. We wouldn't allow that kind of treatment on animals, so why is a human baby any different? Furthermore, Obama is okay with delivering the baby and then tossing it aside, while still alive, and letting it die on its own. That is sickening and that is infanticide.

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Propaganda is taking selected "facts," while leaving out the context in which that fact was established, and using it to create an emotional response.

You mean like the left's hero filmmaker, Michael Moore?

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Propaganda is taking selected "facts," while leaving out the context in which that fact was established, and using it to create an emotional response.

OK. Now, is that something you've ever engaged in yourself?

[newKid]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I'm not aware that Obama intends to do that. I own a gun and I don't feel threatened that he's going to take it away.

If that was the only consideration of the people who are against him here, then why don't they discuss that issue?

somehow, i doubt he will be interested in your guns, at least right away.


however, you can be D@mn sure he is gonna have some ish with me and my AR15. . .

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by yeahYeah

abortion is extreme. murder is extreme, but the lives of criminals are more important then innocent baby's. Being "pro-choice" means you are OK with the murder of babies. Being OK with it, in my book is condoning the barbaric practice.

I don't view abortion the same way you do. Being pro choice to me means that a woman, in consultation with her doctor, has the right to terminate her pregnancy under certain circumstances.

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by RogueXD

duh.. bad quote... you can't hear the opinon from something that is dead..

Do you not see the irony?

[yeahYeah]

Originally Posted by newKid

somehow, i doubt he will be interested in your guns, at least right away.


however, you can be D@mn sure he is gonna have some ish with me and my AR15. . .

unless you own a pop gun, you're in the crosshairs (no pun intended) of the anti gun left and their messianic leader.

[amishclark]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

Hmm, so a gun is a living, breathing thing? What type of gun do you have? Because I need one of those!

I believe it is a woman's choice to have an abortion and it should be legal for the simple fact that if it isn't, it will be done by unlicensed, unqualified "doctors" and it will end up injuring the woman. I am for an abortion if it is a life or death situation. If a woman, like your 14 year old sister, gets knocked up and decides in the first few weeks that she wants an abortion, so be it. But I don't agree that a woman can up and decide at week 20 or later that she wants an abortion so they induce labor and then stab scissors in the baby's skull and suck out the brain. That is inhumane. We wouldn't allow that kind of treatment on animals, so why is a human baby any different? Furthermore, Obama is okay with delivering the baby and then tossing it aside, while still alive, and letting it die on its own. That is sickening and that is infanticide.

i agree...and this is the last thing i'm going to say on this (respond if you want) because we're getting away from bashing etta (). you and i and everyone here likely views any restriction on gun ownership as a step in the wrong direction...one that inevitably means gun ownership will be a thing of the past. at the very least, it makes further restrictions easier to put in place. right? so imagine feeling so passionate about the right to have a safe, legal abortion. where does the restriction stop? can't you see that it's the same arguement, but on a completely different subject?