I hope gas prices hit 6 dollars a gallon. Burn SUVs, Burn :)

[Magicite]

I hate to break it to you guys, but high gas prices are the best possible thing that could happen. WTF you say? Well, it's simple really.

Gas goes up. You can't afford gas. You find another way around.

Gas goes down. You can afford gas. You buy a bigger SUV.


This is why it's important to keep high gas prices. To be quite honest, I hope gas hits 6 dollars a gallon. I live in Atlanta, and it'll make me happier than anything to see these single women no longer driving escalades. Oh, and you may be wondering what I do for a living?

I run a construction company and spend roughly 800+ in fuel each week. I live in a world that is VERY influenced by fuel costs. Which is why I've been personally switching over to biodiesel.

Cheap oil prices will only breed more foreign oil dependence. So instead of thinking of oil based solutions, think of other solutions. Like electric powered trucks that get 200 miles per charge. How much to charge the truck you ask? Roughly 3 dollars. And it's already here. Trucks

That's 3 dollars to drive 200 miles! The truck pays for itself in 3 years.

Not to mention we could go completely clean for electricity issues such as here T. Boone Pickens: Kicking Off the World’s Largest Wind Farm Earth2Tech This is a guy who's been in the oil industry for over 50 years! You want to talk about a guy who knows energy. We CAN become independent energy wise. We can become more eco friendly.

Which is why it annoys me when I constantly here about refinery this, drill that, foreign oil etc. Oil hasn't gone away because it's big business. The government made around 58 billion last year in oil taxes alone TaxProf Blog: Gas Taxes Exceed Oil Companies' Profits That's a LOT of money. So is it any wonder that we're still using resources we don't have to? It's simply good business... at least for the oil companies and the government. Sadly it's bad business for us, and even more so for our children.

So when you talk about energy plans please remember that we are only as dependent upon oil as we choose to be. America is THE most innovative and creative country by far. We've always done far more with what we had, and in more ingenious ways. Do I need to point out that quite a few american inventors have been key in changing the very way the world lives? So why are we still looking at refineries, and drilling? Why are we not saying "raise gas prices!". These leads to us consuming less gas and doing more with what we have. Honestly on a forum that seems super patriotic, this seems to be the most patriotic thing of all. To push for change in the RIGHT direction.

To push for an energy independent country that can meet not only our needs, but our childrens needs.

[XDConvert9mm]

Wow. Welcome to the PV. You certainly chose to come in a totally misguided post regarding how high gas prices are good IMO, but what the heck.

Gas goes up. You can't afford gas. You find another way around.

Exactly what "other way around" do you suggest that's available to suit our entire country's diverse population and demographics today? Always with the very vague answers with you people.

Yeah, I bit. You're turn.

[afmo]

so you're willing to sacrifice the U.S. economy for the death of the SUV?

methinks someone hasn't though this one through....

not to mention lower income people are hit hardest by high gas prices, the people who can't afford SUV's to begin with. So you're in support of driving the lower class further into poverty.

Then you have to remember that first of all, everything we buy has fuel costs factored into it. So you're in support of high food costs, again which impact those who can't afford the good food. You're essentially in favor of keeping lower income families addicted to cheap junk food full of high fructose corn syrup perpetuating the obesity epidemic rather than lowering fuel prices to make fruits and vegetables etc more available to all.

Then factor in that you are a supporter of biodeisel. Which is essentially burning our food supply. Corn is a staple crop. Farmers are being subsidized to grow biodiesel corn rather than food corn. Less supply means higher corn prices. Sure you might be saving some money by switching to bio deisel, but you are paying the difference in your food budget? Have you seen food prices lately? Continually up up up, and you are advocating the burning of our food supply!

There is so much wrong with high gas prices its not even funny. And there is so much wrong with advocating a position that will cripple our country that its not even funny.

Am i saying we should continue to guzzle gasoline by the billions of gallons? of course not. But we NEED oil in the interim to get us to the next big thing, and the next big thing isn't even on the horizon. We have a national security interest in keeping fuel prices low enough to keep the economy running.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by afmo

so you're willing to sacrifice the U.S. economy for the death of the SUV?

methinks someone hasn't though this one through....

not to mention lower income people are hit hardest by high gas prices, the people who can't afford SUV's to begin with. So you're in support of driving the lower class further into poverty.

Then you have to remember that first of all, everything we buy has fuel costs factored into it. So you're in support of high food costs, again which impact those who can't afford the good food. You're essentially in favor of keeping lower income families addicted to cheap junk food full of high fructose corn syrup perpetuating the obesity epidemic rather than lowering fuel prices to make fruits and vegetables etc more available to all.

Then factor in that you are a supporter of biodeisel. Which is essentially burning our food supply. Corn is a staple crop. Farmers are being subsidized to grow biodiesel corn rather than food corn. Less supply means higher corn prices. Sure you might be saving some money by switching to bio deisel, but you are paying the difference in your food budget? Have you seen food prices lately? Continually up up up, and you are advocating the burning of our food supply!

There is so much wrong with high gas prices its not even funny. And there is so much wrong with advocating a position that will cripple our country that its not even funny.

Am i saying we should continue to guzzle gasoline by the billions of gallons? of course not. But we NEED oil in the interim to get us to the next big thing, and the next big thing isn't even on the horizon. We have a national security interest in keeping fuel prices low enough to keep the economy running.

Can you cite examples of how higher gas prices currently are hurting the U.S. economy? Not trying to be funny, just want to know what you're referring to.

[Glock Killer]

Originally Posted by afmo

so you're willing to sacrifice the U.S. economy for the death of the SUV?

methinks someone hasn't though this one through....

not to mention lower income people are hit hardest by high gas prices, the people who can't afford SUV's to begin with. So you're in support of driving the lower class further into poverty.

Then you have to remember that first of all, everything we buy has fuel costs factored into it. So you're in support of high food costs, again which impact those who can't afford the good food. You're essentially in favor of keeping lower income families addicted to cheap junk food full of high fructose corn syrup perpetuating the obesity epidemic rather than lowering fuel prices to make fruits and vegetables etc more available to all.

Then factor in that you are a supporter of biodeisel. Which is essentially burning our food supply. Corn is a staple crop. Farmers are being subsidized to grow biodiesel corn rather than food corn. Less supply means higher corn prices. Sure you might be saving some money by switching to bio deisel, but you are paying the difference in your food budget? Have you seen food prices lately? Continually up up up, and you are advocating the burning of our food supply!

There is so much wrong with high gas prices its not even funny. And there is so much wrong with advocating a position that will cripple our country that its not even funny.

Am i saying we should continue to guzzle gasoline by the billions of gallons? of course not. But we NEED oil in the interim to get us to the next big thing, and the next big thing isn't even on the horizon. We have a national security interest in keeping fuel prices low enough to keep the economy running.

Well said.

[Magicite]

It's already happening. SUV and truck sales are down. Prius's are coming of the lot faster than they can keep them. You're seeing the change as it happens. We just need to keep pushing in the right direction.

Gas prices are the reason. How high they are is the catalyst. You raise them, the faster we become independent. In the past 5 years the "green" market has exploded. Even in construction I'm seeing a demand for "green" buildings. This means things like recycle blue jean insulation. Recycled glass countertops. Appliances that get a certain energy rating. It's crazy the way things are going. And it's awesome

I'm very politcally minded, and I've noticed this board is super neo-con. So I figured I could have a lot of fun here.

[afmo]

just real quickly...the higher gas prices are, the more people spend on fuel and paying into fuel related costs (i.e. the food price thing) and the less they have to spend on consumer goods.

High gas prices hurt the rest of the economy - Alternative Energy dot Com

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be honest, are you spending in the economy as much as you used to now that gas is so high? During the summer, i'm usually first in line to see every movie that comes out. Gas is cutting into my budget big time, so i've been to 2 movies all summer. I also try to buy a new gun every summer, budget is too tight, and the only thing different between this summer and last summer (when i dropped 500 bucks on the XD) is the price of gas has doubled.

when people don't spend money, the economy contracts, if it recedes, we are all in trouble.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Can you cite examples of how higher gas prices currently are hurting the U.S. economy? Not trying to be funny, just want to know what you're referring to.

How abot a rise in the price of all goods that have to be delivered anywhere? Let's take stock of what that includes.....

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Magicite

It's already happening. SUV and truck sales are down. Prius's are coming of the lot faster than they can keep them. You're seeing the change as it happens. We just need to keep pushing in the right direction.

Gas prices are the reason. How high they are is the catalyst. You raise them, the faster we become independent. In the past 5 years the "green" market has exploded. Even in construction I'm seeing a demand for "green" buildings. This means things like recycle blue jean insulation. Recycled glass countertops. Appliances that get a certain energy rating. It's crazy the way things are going. And it's awesome

I'm very politcally minded, and I've noticed this board is super neo-con. So I figured I could have a lot of fun here.

Are you a gun owner?

[Frenchy]

Local dealer here had a demo Yukon Denali showcased for $11,000...What does that tell ya?