He ventured forth to bring light to the world

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Very funny!

What gives with the Germans though? 200,000 people in Berlin turned out to see him??? I've never seen anything like it. What is that about? I guess the Germans are wanting hope and change too.

With their unemployment rate ... They'll take anything!!

German jobless rate at new record
More than 5.2 million Germans were out of work in February, new figures show. The figure of 5.216 million people, or 12.6% of the working-age population, is the highest jobless rate in Europe's biggest economy since the 1930s.




From A More Perfect (European) Union

Volkswagen, BMW and Mercedes-Benz ... because E.U. labor costs are too darn high!

Note to DemocRats: These car factories are all in non-union, mostly Southern, right-to-work states!
Ever wonder why so many Germans were free to go NObama’s speech on a weekday?

[yeahYeah]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Very funny!

What gives with the Germans though? 200,000 people in Berlin turned out to see him??? I've never seen anything like it. What is that about? I guess the Germans are wanting hope and change too.

free concerts before hand...lure the youth our for music and fun, then shove fairy tales down their throats.

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Very funny!

What gives with the Germans though? 200,000 people in Berlin turned out to see him??? I've never seen anything like it. What is that about? I guess the Germans are wanting hope and change too.

Well, for starters, the number of attendees was apparently overestimated by an order of magnitude. German sources put the crowd size as 20,000:

200,000 . . . or 20,000? Obama's Crowd in Berlin

John Rosenthal | Bio | 25 Jul 2008
WPR Blog "Obama Addresses 200,000 in Berlin" -- thus ran the AP headline the day after Barack Obama's much-hyped speech in front of Berlin's Siegessäule or "Victory Column." This 200,000 figure has quickly become the standard estimate of the crowd for Obama's speech in both the American and the German media: so standard indeed that it is for the most part not even treated as an estimate.

The estimates given by German public television ZDF actually during the event, however, were as little as one-tenth of that number. ZDF began its special "Obama in Berlin" coverage [German video] at 6:45 p.m. Central European Time: only 15 minutes before the candidate's speech was scheduled to start. At the time, ZDF reporter Susanne Gelhard was out and about on the so-called "Fan Mile" between the Victory Column and the Brandenburg Gate. "The expectations were highly varied," she said in her live report, "from a few thousand up to a million. Those were the estimates. But, now, several tens of thousands have turned out." Barely five minutes before the speech was supposed to start, ZDF Berlin studio chief Peter Frey added, "We do estimate that 20,000 [literally, "a couple of ten thousand"] people have turned out." Frey's tone, like that of Gelhard, reflected the gap between the relatively modest number cited and the lofty predictions that had preceded the event. Moreover, while the ZDF live images showed that the "Fan Mile" was indeed populated from one end to the other, they also appeared to reveal patches of thinness and pedestrian traffic flowing easily on the half of the boulevard closer to the Brandenburg Gate (i.e. furthest from the "Victory Column")....

[yeahYeah]

i can easily photoshop 1,000,000 extra people into a Church of Obama meeting...

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jmichna

Well, for starters, the number of attendees was apparently overestimated by an order of magnitude. German sources put the crowd size as 20,000:

I question your source, as everything I have read, even conservative media, say that the crowd was 200,000 people.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jmichna

Well, for starters, the number of attendees was apparently overestimated by an order of magnitude. German sources put the crowd size as 20,000:

July 24, 2008
Obama Berlin Crowd Estimated to Be 200,000
@ 2:59 pm by Walter Alarkon

Police estimated that about 200,000 people turned out to see Barack Obama's speech in Berlin, Der Spiegel reports.

The German magazine also wrote on its blog that people had to have their bags checked and go through a metal detector before entering the grounds of the Victory Column, the site of the speech. They were treated to a concert featuring reggae musician Patrice and the rock band Reamonn before Obama took the stage.

The Hill's Blog Briefing Room Obama Berlin Crowd Estimated to Be 200,000


Maybe there were so many people because they liked the bands?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

The Hill's Blog Briefing Room Obama Berlin Crowd Estimated to Be 200,000


Maybe there were so many people because they liked the bands?

Bands might have been part of it ... But I really think the unemployment rate had a lot to do with the turnout.
He ventured forth to bring light to the world

Possibly some free food ??

[afmo]

well hell 5.2 million of em don't have a job, what else are they going to do?

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I question your source, as everything I have read, even conservative media, say that the crowd was 200,000 people.

2,000 20,000 200,000...who cares? Why the hell is he campaigning in all these other countries for anyway? They don't have one damn say in who becomes our president. We know who all the european nations would pick anyway. I could care less what they think of our country and who they want for president.

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I question your source, as everything I have read, even conservative media, say that the crowd was 200,000 people.

"My" source is German television... question what you want.