Of, and you never have explained why you insist on posting pro Barry stuff on this board.
Hasn't your WASR question been answered? And how in the world would a question about a Russian assault rifle have lead you to XDTalk in the first place? Google? I don't think so.
I'm assuming you're a campaign newbie that got assigned the FNG gun board detail. As I mentioned earlier, please report to them that you are not having much luck winning hearts and minds here.
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Originally Posted by Green Man
Another one who has nothing.
At least try to make some stuff up.
He is left-handed, maybe that is a sign that he's actually a commie?
His middle name is Hussein, maybe that is a sign he's actually a Muslim commie?
Who here is lacking answers? Haven't heard back from you on this one, have I?
You do get points for persistence against incredible odds, I gotta give you that! The E for effort goes to you for the campaign card today.
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So you have no proof that Obama will turn America into a socialist country?
How exactly can you prove what hasn't happened yet? It will take more than a rookie mouthpiece politico and a leftist congress to turn this country socialist, but they will, I guarantee it, expand federal taxes, spending, and entitlement programs to a degree we haven't seen since FDR and LBJ. We won't be socialist like the UK and others across the Pond per se, but we'll be so far down that offramp that it'll be hard to get back on the freeway.
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In my experience it requires a profound faith to believe that, against all observable tendencies, elegance, complexity, and organization arise spontaneously from chaos by purely random means. The upshot is that at the end of the day, despite claimed adherence to pure reason, we're all people of faith.
So Greenie ... Tell me why I shouldn't believe his agenda aligns with socialism and is BAD for America ??
Translation = Stop asking questions about the future, and start making comments.
Until you can prove where Obama has advocated for and where in his platform he plans:
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
The ball is in your court. I did not say he was a socialist. You seem to be the political genius. Educate me, if I'm wrong. I'm waiting.
This is great!
A socialist organization helped get him his 143 days of experience.
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Obama’s International Socialist Connections
AIM Column | By Cliff Kincaid | February 14, 2008
The socialist connections of Obama and the Democratic Party have certainly not been featured in the Washington Post columns of Harold Meyerson, who happens not only to be a member but a vice-chair of the DSA.
Campaign workers for Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama are under fire for displaying a flag featuring communist hero Che Guevara. But Obama has his own controversial socialist connections. He is, in fact, an associate of a Chicago-based Marxist group with access to millions of labor union dollars and connections to expert political consultants, including a convicted swindler.
Obama's socialist backing goes back at least to 1996, when he received the endorsement of the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) for an Illinois state senate seat. Later, the Chicago DSA newsletter reported that Obama, as a state senator, showed up to eulogize Saul Mendelson, one of the "champions" of "Chicago's democratic left" and a long-time socialist activist. Obama's stint as a "community organizer" in Chicago has gotten some attention, but his relationship with the DSA socialists, who groomed and backed him, has been generally ignored.
Blogger Steve Bartin, who has been following Obama's career and involvement with the Chicago socialists, has uncovered a fascinating video showing Obama campaigning for openly socialist Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Interestingly, Sanders, who won his seat in 2006, called Obama "one of the great leaders of the United States Senate," even though Obama had only been in the body for about two years. In 2007, the National Journal said that Obama had established himself as "the most liberal Senator." More liberal than Sanders? That is quite a feat. Does this make Obama a socialist, too?
DSA describes itself as the largest socialist organization in the United States and the principal U.S. affiliate of the Socialist International. The Socialist International (SI) has what is called "consultative status" with the United Nations. In other words, it works hand-in-glove with the world body.
The international connection is important and significant because an Obama bill, "The Global Poverty Act," has just been rushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, with the assistance of Democratic Senator Joe Biden, the chairman, and Republican Senator Richard Lugar. The legislation (S.2433) commits the U.S. to spending hundreds of billions of dollars more in foreign aid on the rest of the world, in order to comply with the "Millennium Goals" established by the United Nations. Conservative members of the committee were largely caught off-guard by the move to pass the Obama bill but are putting a "hold" on it, in order to try to prevent the legislation, which also quickly passed the House, from being quickly brought up for a full Senate vote. But observers think that Senate Democrats may try to pass it quickly anyway, in order to give Obama a precious legislative "victory" that he could run on.
Another group associated with the SI is the Party of European Socialists (PES), which heard from Howard Dean, the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, back in 2006. Dean's speech is posted on the official Democratic Party website, although the European socialist parties are referred to as "progressive." Democrats, Dean said, want to be "good citizens of the world community." He spoke at a session on "Global Challenges for Progressive Politics."
Following up, in April 2007, PES President Poul Nyrup Rasmussen reported that European socialists held a meeting "in the Democrats HQ in Washington," met with officials of the party and Democratic members of Congress, and agreed that "PES activist groups" in various U.S. cities would start working together. The photos of the trip show Rasmussen meeting with such figures as Senator Ben Cardin, Senator Bernie Sanders, officials of the Brookings Institution, Howard Dean, and AFL-CIO President John W. Sweeney, a member of the DSA. The Brookings Institution is headed by former Clinton State Department official Strobe Talbott, a proponent of world government who was recently identified in the book Comrade J as having been a pawn of the Russian intelligence service.
The socialist connections of Obama and the Democratic Party have certainly not been featured in the Washington Post columns of Harold Meyerson, who happens not only to be a member but a vice-chair of the DSA. Meyerson, the subject of our 2005 column, "A Socialist at the Washington Post," has praised convicted inside-trader George Soros for manipulating campaign finance laws to benefit the far-left elements of the Democratic Party. Obama's success in the Democratic presidential primaries and caucuses is further evidence of Soros's success. Indeed, Soros has financially contributed to the Obama campaign.
It is not surprising that the Chicago Democrat, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, has endorsed Obama. Schakowsky, who endorsed Howard Dean for president in 2004, was honored in 2000 at a dinner sponsored by the Chicago chapter of the DSA. Her husband, Robert Creamer, emerged from federal prison in November 2006 after serving five months for financial crimes. He pleaded guilty to ripping off financial institutions while running a non-profit group. Before he was convicted but under indictment, Creamer was hired by the Soros-funded Open Society Policy Center to sabotage John Bolton's nomination as Ambassador to the U.N.
After his release from prison, Creamer released a book, Listen to Your Mother:Stand up Straight: How Progressives Can Win, described by one blogger as the book that was "penned in the pen." A blurb for the book declares, "Some people think that in order to win, Democrats need to move to the political center by adopting conservative values and splitting the difference between progressive and conservative positions. History shows they are wrong. To win the next election and to win in the long term, we need to redefine the political center."
In addition to writing the book, Creamer is back in business, running his firm, Strategic Consulting Group, and advertising himself as "a consultant to the campaigns to end the war in Iraq, pass universal health care, change America's budget priorities and enact comprehensive immigration reform." His clients have included the AFL-CIO and MoveOn.org. In fact, his client list is a virtual who's who of the Democratic Party, organized labor, and Democratic Party constituency groups.
Creamer's list of testimonials comes from such figures as Democratic Senators Dick Durbin (Ill.) and Sherrod Brown (Ohio), Harold Meyerson, MoveOn.org founder Wes Boyd, and David Axelrod, a "Democratic political consultant."
Axelrod, of course, is much more than just a "Democratic political consultant." He helped State Senator Barack Obama win his U.S. Senate seat in 2004 and currently serves as strategist and media advisor to Obama's presidential campaign.
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Gun control means being able to hit your target. If I have a 'hot button' issue, this is definitely it. Don't even think about taking my guns. My rights are not negotiable, and I am totally unwilling to compromise when it comes to the Second Amendment. Michael Badnarik
Well Dan, I do believe that the questions asked so far are more geared toward asking Lime Boy to prove that Barry is not Socialistic/Marxist/Collectivist in his ideologies as opposed to trying to prove he is.
Didn't you read all those posts above and maybe find that to be true?
I'm with you....I just find it naive that people (specifically Obama supporters) are so stuck on documenting empirically what's patently obvious before they accept it. I think this is one of Obama's fifty-seven states of the union.....Denial.
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In my experience it requires a profound faith to believe that, against all observable tendencies, elegance, complexity, and organization arise spontaneously from chaos by purely random means. The upshot is that at the end of the day, despite claimed adherence to pure reason, we're all people of faith.
Until you can prove where Obama has advocated for and where in his platform he plans:
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
The ball is in your court. I did not say he was a socialist. You seem to be the political genius. Educate me, if I'm wrong. I'm waiting.
You might want to try scrolling back in this thread and answering the many questions that you have ignored out of convenience before you ask for yet more input on this from others. JMO.
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"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
Until you can prove where Obama has advocated for and where in his platform he plans:
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
The ball is in your court. I did not say he was a socialist. You seem to be the political genius. Educate me, if I'm wrong. I'm waiting.
So you cannot show that he is not ??
You're pretty good when it comes to asking questions ... Yet seem to have no substance that will let you respond to questions asked of you.
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Gun control means being able to hit your target. If I have a 'hot button' issue, this is definitely it. Don't even think about taking my guns. My rights are not negotiable, and I am totally unwilling to compromise when it comes to the Second Amendment. Michael Badnarik
I'm with you....I just find it naive that people are so stuck on documenting empirically what's patently obvious before they accept it. I think this is one of Obama's fifty-seven states of the union.....Denial.
I believe it's #55, right to the Northeast of Oz with a great view of NeverNeverland but constantly being bothered by those pesky OompaLoompas next door.
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"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
You might want to try scrolling back in this thread and answering the many questions that you have ignored out of convenience before you ask for yet more input on this from others. JMO.
I'm using the very definition of what a socialist agenda is and you can't even give a simple yes or no to as whether that is what Obama has advocated for in the past and what he wants to do if president. Funny.
I'm using the very definition of what a socialist agenda is and you can't even give a simple yes or no to as whether that is what Obama has advocated for in the past and what he wants to do if president. Funny.
Great dodge, again. Scroll back and answer some questions.
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