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Old 07-03-2008, 04:26 PM   #1
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Of course it didn't make national news...

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Sunday night, close to midnight, police were called to a home on W. Cypress Street because of a shooting. There they found Andrew Williams dead after having been shot numerous times. More than 100 rounds of various calibers were used in the attack.

Phoenix police arrested three suspects after a short car chase. The suspects discarded numerous assault rifles and handguns, tactical gear (including Kevlar helmets, bulletproof vests and kneepads) and plenty of ammo.

One suspect, Daniel Garcia-Saenz is an American citizen who spent five years in jail for kidnapping and other charges. Phoenix police are confirming to Ankarlo Mornings Garcia-Saenz moved to Mexico upon his release from jail where he may have picked up some military training. He has told police he received the training south of the border. Police are working to confirm…

The other suspects, Manual Garcia-Trejom and Rodolfo Madrigal Lopez are Mexican nationals who had already been deported for criminal activity. Obviously, it wasn’t hard for them to sneak back in.

Phoenix police also confirm they are working with ICE and officials in Mexico to obtain more information. Sources tells Ankarlo Mornings, the victim, Andrew Williams was originally from Jamaica and most likely involved in the marijuana drug trade.

More details to follow…
4 or 5 police memos said that the suspects told officers on the scene that they were Mexican Military. Now Phoenix police are backing off on that. Hmmm. The memos also stated that the gunmen planned on killing the police because they want to take back El norte (the U.S.) but they were separated from their ammo as I understand it.
My info came from the head of the Phoenix Police Union that was on the Ankarlo show.
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Old 07-03-2008, 04:41 PM   #2
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I have seen this report many of times.

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Good. I didn't think it got past AZ state lines.
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At what point will our people starting taking shots at those crossing the border? And yes, I'm serious. Hell, is it possible to shoot from our side of the border and tag some of their coyote's and military over there? I honestly don't know what the border looks like down there.
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The Mexican Military Regularly Enters This Country On Behalf of Drug Dealers...White

Here's some more on this story.
Janet is jockeying for position. That's about the best that can be said, and Homeland security is aware, yet does nothing to stop it
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U.S. Border Patrol agents have been ordered not to arrest illegal aliens along the section of the Arizona border where protesters patrolled last month because an increase in apprehensions there would prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, The Washington Times has learned.

More than a dozen agents, all of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors at the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear that arrests were “not to go up” along the 23-mile section of border that the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration.

I think that it is time for a serious overhaul of upper management at the border patrol. It seems that this story is fairly credible and is in tune with several others over the last few years.
These people are dealing not only with illegal immigrants but also with our national safety. I hope a hope intense investigation is launched. I wonder if the MSM will run with it… NAW!
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Why am I not surprised at this? This is phucking pathetic. But am I surprised? Nope.
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Nope, you shouldn't be surprised. You're closer to the war zone than I am .... Well used to be. I can drive to this shooting incident in a matter of minutes.
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IMHO, as twisted and strange as it may be, illegals are not even human beings. There should be no effort whatsoever to solve crimes committed against illegals, including murder. If they are here illegally, they get what's coming to them and we shouldn't even care.
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Sources tells Ankarlo Mornings, the victim, Andrew Williams was originally from Jamaica and most likely involved in the marijuana drug trade.
So, there really wasn't a victim then, just another suspect.

By the way, this article made the L.A. Times.

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IMHO, as twisted and strange as it may be, illegals are not even human beings. There should be no effort whatsoever to solve crimes committed against illegals, including murder. If they are here illegally, they get what's coming to them and we shouldn't even care.
Twisted is correct. Your statement is way out there. Even tho illegal aliens are criminals and in my opinion, should be prosecuted and deported, they are still human beings. Tho my statement above might seem to be in agreement with you (the one about no victim) it isn't anywhere close in agreement.

Since the paper reported that the "victim" was probably a drug dealer, in my mind he is just another criminal who bit the dust, but he is/was a human. My feelings about that stem from my career in le. Personally, I don't care that another drug dealer got killed, but being illegal doesn't make him any less human.

Expect a comment or two from others about your statement.
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