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Old 07-04-2008, 01:25 AM   #21
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I'm thinking your feelings about Bush getting us into a war are skewing your judgment on this.

Buy the book!
If the theory is correct .... It sure as heck was to "benefit regular Americans", and in fact, all of America, at all levels.

Honestly, if this whole situation is about currency stability in the International market ... I can live with the idea much easier than the story of WMD's, overthrowing Saddam, instilling Democracy, or whatever the mission of the week is supposed to be.

Oil is not the issue!
The issue, I now believe, is the safeguarding of the U.S. dollar in the International market.

You can cite the Hunt articles all day long. I did the same thing about a year ago. But since I ran across this information ... Hunt just might be a tool and receiver of blame.

Peru
Why was Venezuela a dot on a map until they decided to state publically that they would sell oil in whatever currency a client could provide ??
Chavez became a public enemy the day he announced this intention.
Saddam threatened to sell oil for gold ... Look what happened.

Think about it!

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Here's the article I posted about Hunt and Iraq - Texas Co. Signs Iraq Oil Deal With Kurds , With No National Iraq Oil Law Passed, Kurdistan Region Makes Its Own Rules - CBS News
Also, it's not just oil. It's about expanding markets for all sorts of businesses.
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Realizing the dependency this nation has on foreign energy sources ... I can't blame him for worrying. But if it makes you feel better to follow a theory of hateful big oil ...
You go right ahead with your agenda
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I have read information about the currency issue for some time. I think there is something to it, but I also believe the Bush administration is totally enmeshed with the oil business. This includes Dick Cheney. Do you know that worries about keeping the oil flowing is the only thing that gives Dick Cheney nightmares? Maybe that's what causes his heart problems!
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You seem to have oil on the brain ...
I said it was about the U.S. Dollar.
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Harper's is a fairly liberal magazine. I don't think they can manufacture facts though.
Harper's is an insanely Liberal magazine that can skew facts to fit their own conclusions and agenda...and they certainly do.

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I have read information about the currency issue for some time. I think there is something to it, but I also believe the Bush administration is totally enmeshed with the oil business. This includes Dick Cheney. Do you know that worries about keeping the oil flowing is the only thing that gives Dick Cheney nightmares? Maybe that's what causes his heart problems!
I think Bush and Cheney are the source of your nightmares Etta. Your hatred of them makes it impossible for you to view any political situation with any objectivity IMO.

When in doubt, blame Bush!
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Harper's is an insanely Liberal magazine that can skew facts to fit their own conclusions and agenda...and they certainly do.



I think Bush and Cheney are the source of your nightmares Etta. Your hatred of them makes it impossible for you to view any political situation with any objectivity IMO.

When in doubt, blame Bush!
They don't give me nightmares. I don't have that much energy invested in them. I don't hate Bush and Cheney. I don't hate anyone. I strongly disagree with the direction that they have taken the country.


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November 25 2007: 5:18 PM ESTWhy is Dick Cheney smiling?
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WASHINGTON (Fortune Magazine) -- You might imagine that Dick Cheney, a well-known worrier, would be thinking dark thoughts about the economy.

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No, if there's anything about the economy that keeps Dick Cheney up at night, it's the prospect of sabotage aimed at disrupting the oil market, he told FORTUNE.

"Clearly the world depends on a global supply of oil, and that will continue to be true for some considerable period of time. Efforts to shut down the flow of oil could conceivably have a significant impact."

So when President Bush's 2008 budget was coming together, with the goal of balancing the budget in five years, Cheney nevertheless insisted on a $947 million line item: a speedup of the flow of crude into the Texas and Louisiana salt caverns housing the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

The budget guys pushed back: Can't we wait until crude prices level off? No, the word came back from Cheney, this was urgent. That was all it took. "He doesn't weigh in on a ton of issues," said a person close to those negotiations. "But when he does . . ."

When he does, the Vice President tends to get his way. "He's an extremely effective bureaucratic operator," says Peter Wehner, formerly Bush's director of strategic initiatives.
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Harper's is an insanely Liberal magazine that can skew facts to fit their own conclusions and agenda...and they certainly do.
So, is National Review "an insanely conservative magazine?"
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Why did you post another cut and paste ???
Don't your own convictions run deep enough to state a position without requiring back-up ??
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They don't give me nightmares. I don't have that much energy invested in them. I don't hate Bush and Cheney. I don't hate anyone. I strongly disagree with the direction that they have taken the country.

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Why did you post another cut and paste ???
Don't your own convictions run deep enough to state a position without requiring back-up ??
Why don't you get off it? You and everyone else who criticizes the fact that I post articles can just buzz off.

I posted that article to prove what I had said earlier that keeping the oil flowing prevents Cheney from having nightmares.
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So, is National Review "an insanely conservative magazine?"
Yes.
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Why don't you get off it? You and everyone else who criticizes the fact that I post articles can just buzz off.

I posted that article to prove what I had said earlier that keeping the oil flowing prevents Cheney from having nightmares.
Just as you are free to post whatever you wish within Forum guidelines, others are free to criticize what you post. Works both ways Etta.
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