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**AZXD** · 06-25-2008, 09:29 PM

Funding!

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Yeah, I never understood that......

A state is allowed to make HARSHER laws than federal law (such as the Ca. Assault weapons ban).....

But try to make the State law more LENIENT, and the Feds get their panties in a bunch!!!!

OKMatt · 06-26-2008, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cjive134

I don't really know how I feel about this one, but those in favor of the ruling made the point that if a person already knows that he is facing death if caught why not kill the only witness? What's the worst they could do, kill the guy twice?

Consequences of laws are not up to the SCOUS to predict or rule on.

OKMatt · 06-26-2008, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Where in the Constitution is there a provision of death to child rapists?

The question is where does it prohibit the death sentence for child rapist. If it is not in the Constitution the matter should be left to the states.

OKMatt · 06-26-2008, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

I guess that's why the issue was presented in front of the SCOTUS.

In my very, very limited knowledge of law and in no way wanting to even try to arm chair this .... it just seems that there has been a very long standing precedent for the SCOTUS to only back capital punishment for a capital offense or treason. They had an opportunity to change that today and didn't. There are members on this thread bashing the decision and that certainly is their right to do so. I think it's important to remember that the SCOTUS is made up of some very impressive legal intellect even if you feel they don't belong on the bench or screwed the pooch on the decision. The truth is there isn't a member on here that could begin to argue the case better than the those who did so today in front of the SCOTUS.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how well a point is argued if it goes against some of the justices personal beliefs/philosophy. They simply rule in favor of their beliefs instead of holding it up to the constitution.

Impressive legal intellect, maybe but constitutional intellect no way. IIRC Jus. Briar wants to use foreign law to aid them in deciding cases. A travesty.

It's worse than i initially recalled. google this
supreme court foreign law.

Carnivorous · 06-26-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Yeah, I never understood that......

A state is allowed to make HARSHER laws than federal law (such as the Ca. Assault weapons ban).....

But try to make the State law more LENIENT, and the Feds get their panties in a bunch!!!!

It's because people are subject to both Federal and state law. If one of the two bans a certain thing, and the other doesn't, people are still subject to the ban. There are a lot of state laws more lenient than their Federal counterparts, but we never hear much about them because the Federal law controls in those situations.

Krackels · 06-30-2008, 03:42 PM

Apparently we should have compassion on people like this.
Greensburg Man Charged With Raping 5-Month-Old - Pittsburgh News Story - WTAE Pittsburgh

Ride the Lightning · 06-30-2008, 06:19 PM

I didn't read all five pages, but here's my opinion:

The death penalty for child rape is the wrong way to punish those people for their crimes. The proper way to do it is to put them in prison, which will likely be for the rest of their lives. On induction day, the warden should announce in front of every prisoner what the child rapist has done in as much detail as possible. Inmates in maximum security prisons really don't care much for people who commit sex crimes against children, and they are typically inclined to repay the rapist in kind. Child rapists typically don't live long in prison either, and the method of killing is usually not nearly as civil as what they'd get from the state. What punishment could be more fitting for a child rapist than being gang raped in the ass until you bleed out and die?

**einheit 13** · 06-30-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

I didn't read all five pages, but here's my opinion:

The death penalty for child rape is the wrong way to punish those people for their crimes. The proper way to do it is to put them in prison, which will likely be for the rest of their lives. On induction day, the warden should announce in front of every prisoner what the child rapist has done in as much detail as possible. Inmates in maximum security prisons really don't care much for people who commit sex crimes against children, and they are typically inclined to repay the rapist in kind. Child rapists typically don't live long in prison either, and the method of killing is usually not nearly as civil as what they'd get from the state. What punishment could be more fitting for a child rapist than being gang raped in the ass until you bleed out and die?

Well, killing them ourselves is cheaper...let the victims family decide. beheaded, gassed, shot, hanged, drowned...and my personal favorite, electrocution! Hook them to a power source via a 'clapper' and enjoy!!!! "clap on....clap off....clap on, clap off... the bastard!"

Ride the Lightning · 06-30-2008, 08:59 PM

I doubt they'd live more than a few months in prison. By the time you went through all of the appeals for the 'chair the cost would be pretty high. Estimates on the cost of an execution are into several million dollars each over the cost of non-death penalty cases. California says it cost them about $21k per year to house an inmate at the turn of the century. Which would be cheaper? I'd lock 'em up and let the natural course of true love take care of the problem.

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06-30-2008, 06:19 PM	#47
Ride the Lightning XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 1,280	I didn't read all five pages, but here's my opinion: The death penalty for child rape is the wrong way to punish those people for their crimes. The proper way to do it is to put them in prison, which will likely be for the rest of their lives. On induction day, the warden should announce in front of every prisoner what the child rapist has done in as much detail as possible. Inmates in maximum security prisons really don't care much for people who commit sex crimes against children, and they are typically inclined to repay the rapist in kind. Child rapists typically don't live long in prison either, and the method of killing is usually not nearly as civil as what they'd get from the state. What punishment could be more fitting for a child rapist than being gang raped in the ass until you bleed out and die?

06-30-2008, 08:59 PM	#49
Ride the Lightning XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 1,280	I doubt they'd live more than a few months in prison. By the time you went through all of the appeals for the 'chair the cost would be pretty high. Estimates on the cost of an execution are into several million dollars each over the cost of non-death penalty cases. California says it cost them about $21k per year to house an inmate at the turn of the century. Which would be cheaper? I'd lock 'em up and let the natural course of true love take care of the problem.