A sad day for America -- Supreme Court: "No death penalty for child rape"

[Broadside]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

It's weird seeing you guys all bent out of shape about this... it's not like the death penalty has been around for a long time for this crime. Only recently did a legislature decide that the crime deserved the death penalty! And only one legislature at that. In the decade or so that the law was on the books (and un-challenged) not ONE other jurisdiction passed a similar law. So vent all you want now, but where was your righteous indignation when your legislatures failed to pass a similar law in your jurisdictions?

The problem is this, we all know 98+% of the sumbags that commit this crime even with a death penalty would never see the death penalty.

It would have served two purposes.
1) A deterent "maybe"
2) An option for a lifetime plea vs. death penalty case.

The goal is to keep these types of criminals off the streets. Repeat sex offenders is not what we want in our society. If we can't execute them for hell sakes keep them locked up.

These guys are the scum of the earth and the bottom of the list on a criminal ranking sheet by criminals.

[Dave Starr]

Put him in the general population & tell the other cons what he's in for. Problem solved.
"Mr. Dover, this is your new cellmate, the child molester."

[einheit 13]

let someone rape any child I know...god himself would have to duck for cover....

[JeffXD]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

It's weird seeing you guys all bent out of shape about this... it's not like the death penalty has been around for a long time for this crime. Only recently did a legislature decide that the crime deserved the death penalty! And only one legislature at that. In the decade or so that the law was on the books (and un-challenged) not ONE other jurisdiction passed a similar law. So vent all you want now, but where was your righteous indignation when your legislatures failed to pass a similar law in your jurisdictions?

I have always been bent out of shape that rapists aren't fried to a crisp. I think those sorts of people are some of the lowest forms of scum. I say fry em all!!!!

[Broadside]

Originally Posted by Dave Starr

Put him in the general population & tell the other cons what he's in for. Problem solved.
"Mr. Dover, this is your new cellmate, the child molester."

Glenn shares the same view.

Glenn Beck - Current Events & Politics - Glenn Beck: No death for child rapists

June 25, 2008 - 12:49 ET
GLENN: And just as I start to make the point that we're not out of control, Stu says in my ear, "Glenn, I just want you to know that the Supreme Court has just decided that you can't put child rapists to death." Excuse me? So I take back everything I say. We're doomed. I mean, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. The Supreme Court has ruled -- do we know who -- it was 5-4? Was it another split decision?

STU: Yeah, it was 5-4, Glenn.

GLENN: 5-4. Do we know who, who it was, which judges?

STU: Yeah, it's really going to be a shocker to you. It was Scalia, Alito, Roberts and Thomas who were on the correct side of the issue.

GLENN: Yeah, killing child rapists.

STU: Yeah, and then the other idiots on the other side.

GLENN: So I don't even know why this is even up for debate on the Supreme Court. This is just because raping a child isn't bad enough?

STU: Yeah, you have to figure out, Glenn, whether -- is rape -- raping a child just kind of an annoyance or do we really dislike it? And now we know it's just an annoyance.

GLENN: Right. So we just have to find out if it's as bad as murder.

STU: Yeah, of course.

GLENN: Definitely not as bad as murder.

STU: No, no, no, no, nowhere close. It's what I would call a little -- it's a little annoyance but nothing big.

GLENN: Yeah. You know, Stu, you said that my last stage show was the most violent stage show you've ever seen on any stage.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: It was the hostile of stage shows.

GLENN: Yeah, it was. It was kind of The Saw of stage shows.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: I stick with my platform on pedophilia and pedophiles and those who rape children. And I quote from memory, I hope I get this one right, from memory the platform plank on pedophiles for Beck '08 was shoot them in the head. I think that was -- I hate to misquote myself, but I believe that was it.

STU: Yeah. You know, I would have thought we lived in a country where, I don't know, punishment, retribution for molesting and raping children was a somewhat widely held belief but apparently not.

GLENN: I'm looking at Joe right now as he is reading the decision. Do you have any -- have you gotten to the part? What is the reason? Come on over here. Come on over here. Hang on. Joe's trying to -- I mean, it takes somebody who's not completely brain-dead but on their way to brain-dead to understand it and so that's why we got Joe to -- he understands the legal nonsense. Okay, approximately 5,702 incidents of -- I don't need to talk about the kinds of rape, of a child under the age of 12 were reported nationwide in 2005. 5700 rapes of children under 12 in one year. This is twice the total incidents of international murder for victims. Okay, so what did they say, that would be too many -- we would kill too many people? Hang on just a second. Hang on.

JOE: The primary thrust of the decision, Glenn, is that the punishment can't be disproportionate to the crime and the majority of the opinion is saying that only those crimes that result in death are punishable by death.

GLENN: Oh, wait a minute, I didn't know that. Hey, who wants to rape a child rapist? Let's get rapists to rape child rapists, that way everybody in prison is happy.

STU: I mean, this is a very innovative solution, Glenn. I believe it was originally quoted as an eye for an eye.

GLENN: Well, that's what they're saying. Basically aren't they saying eye for an eye here. They are saying you can't take an eye if he only took your finger. Well, then I say we rape these guys at the top of every hour.

STU: Well, Glenn --

GLENN: No, seriously I don't want to have to -- I don't want to do that. So we'll invent some machines that will just rape them repeatedly at the top of every hour.

STU: Top of the hour rapes and traffic every 12 minutes.

GLENN: Come on, you've got to finish that slop up because it's about time for your next rape.

STU: The good thing about this -- I mean, Glenn, I'm not a lawyer as you know, but the good thing about this conclusion is apparently also all the crappy prison sentences will also be thrown out because that's clearly not proportionate with crime. I mean, a three-year prison sentence isn't proportional for child rape.

GLENN: Hey, look, it only lasted three minutes. Why don't I go to jail for three minutes.

STU: Well, it could get worse you're saying. Okay. I was thinking that maybe we should --

GLENN: Joe, I'm saying this in jest but it really is that, isn't it? I mean, it's really, it's going down that road, isn't it? Holy cow. Joe just said this decision is frightening when you read the language. This court has done some frightening, frightening. With Guantanamo, gang, I got news for you. We're in deep trouble with Guantanamo. We can't do this, we're going to give these guys access to our courts? Let me say something. If I were President of the United States, I would go on national television and say, ladies and gentlemen of America, the Supreme Court said that we don't have Guantanamo, so that is over, we're going to release all of them but I want you to know from hereon out our policy is to not have prisoners. We're going to shoot them all in the head. If we think that they are against us, we're going to shoot them and kill them, period. Because that's the only thing we've got going for us is we can put them away and get information.

[JeffXD]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Just thinking out loud here ..... if you include child rapists in the death penalty then what would keep that from morphing to include adult rapists?

Personal opinion but I feel like the SCOTUS made the correct decision even though child sexual abuse/rape is as heinous as a crime can get without killing someone.

OK. I agree. Kill the ones that rape adults too.

[OKMatt]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Just thinking out loud here ..... if you include child rapists in the death penalty then what would keep that from morphing to include adult rapists?

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Intended or unintended results of laws are not within the scope of SCOUS power.
The majority said basically said the death penalty is cruel and unusual punishment for everything except, murder, treason and espionage.
I think the intention of the 8th amendment was to prevent tortuous deaths of the convicted ...
Being put to sleep and then killed with drugs is severe, but not cruel nor unusual.
Yet again, the SCOUS imposes their will when they should be applying the Constitution.

[Judge]

Wow, you've got a short view of history..

In the 1700's and early 1800's burglars where hung. Child rapists, if when they ever occurred then, never made it to trial.

The LACK of a death penalty is only a recent innovation, as the pussification of America continues. And we wonder why crime is rampant and school kids committing felonies is common now -versus only 50 years ago...

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

It's weird seeing you guys all bent out of shape about this... it's not like the death penalty has been around for a long time for this crime. Only recently did a legislature decide that the crime deserved the death penalty! And only one legislature at that. In the decade or so that the law was on the books (and un-challenged) not ONE other jurisdiction passed a similar law. So vent all you want now, but where was your righteous indignation when your legislatures failed to pass a similar law in your jurisdictions?

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Just thinking out loud here ..... if you include child rapists in the death penalty then what would keep that from morphing to include adult rapists?

Fine by me! Cut their nads off and then gas 'em, hang 'em, shoot 'em, whatever, I don't care.

[Yuppicide]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Just thinking out loud here ..... if you include child rapists in the death penalty then what would keep that from morphing to include adult rapists?

Originally Posted by JEFFXD

OK. I agree. Kill the ones that rape adults too.

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

Fine by me! Cut their nads off and then gas 'em, hang 'em, shoot 'em, whatever, I don't care.

How about Statutory Rape where one persons 18 and ones 16 or 17, but the sex was consensual?

How about the fact that according to the FBI: Between 8%-10% of
Rape charges turn out to be false?

How about Dirty cops who are too lazy to actually investigate a crime, and would rather set-up innocent people and encourage children to accuse their parents and neighbors of horrible sex crimes.

injusticebusters 2004 > > Bakersfield: Fallout from false allegations still coming down