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Old 06-16-2008, 11:50 AM   #41
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Funny how an opon Obama supporter is the only one to joke about guns and confiscations.
Funny how some don't have ANY sense of humour. Go pull the sand out of your vagina.
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:15 PM   #42
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Funny how some don't have ANY sense of humour. Go pull the sand out of your vagina.
I see you finally decided to use more logical, rational arguments than you usually do KEV.

A very enlightening post that adds much to the discussion. Thank you.
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:54 PM   #43
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There is no need to go on incessantly about Obama. is he really worth discussing more than 5 minutes?

We know what he is about and are amazed that he can bamboozle others into supporting him and lets leave it at that. Millions of people believe in stupid things and support ignorant and wrongheaded leaders. This i not exclusive to the USA or any race...come on now!

No need to go on about the guy...he is what he is and tons of posts on him are pointless. Unless it is to combat his voting record, policies or direct statements...give it a rest!

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I see you finally decided to use more logical, rational arguments than you usually do KEV.

A very enlightening post that adds much to the discussion. Thank you.
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:46 PM   #45
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There is no need to go on incessantly about Obama. is he really worth discussing more than 5 minutes?

We know what he is about and are amazed that he can bamboozle others into supporting him and lets leave it at that. Millions of people believe in stupid things and support ignorant and wrongheaded leaders. This i not exclusive to the USA or any race...come on now!

No need to go on about the guy...he is what he is and tons of posts on him are pointless. Unless it is to combat his voting record, policies or direct statements...give it a rest!

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I agree. Why anyone here would vote for someone who supports higher taxes, more government regulation, more social programs (that we pay for), the global poverty act, and someone who has favored strict gun control in the past is beyond me. I can understand disagreeing about the war, about the environment, about terrorism, etc....but why would anyone here support someone who is pro-gun control? Pro-high taxes? Pro-the government runs nearly everything? The Obama supporters on this board lose credibility by the day for supporting these policies. Just his stance on the issues and his past voting record should be MORE than enough for him to lose the election. But never underestimate the power of the ignorant, uninformed American. Strength in numbers, right?

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But never underestimate the power of the ignorant, uninformed American. Strength in numbers, right?

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Funny. I thought the same thing after Bush was reelected.
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Funny. I thought the same thing after Bush was reelected.
Didn't you vote for him once?

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Didn't you vote for him once?

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Funny. I thought the same thing after Bush was reelected.
Sad thing is, it just goes to show that politicians from both sides of the aisle are elected by the power of the ignorant, uninformed American. It's just how the electoral process is set up. When the dust settles, the average Joe or Jane that votes will have only seen snippets of what the candidate is really about and bases his/her opinion on those snapshots of a much bigger picture. It's like choosing between a cold glass of Coke or Pepsi: both sound refreshing but in the end all we end up with are rotten teeth (metaphorically speaking), acid reflux, and a bad aftertaste no matter which one we choose.

I've only been able to vote in the last 2 presidential elections...here's to hoping that the choices will improve in the future...
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Sad thing is, it just goes to show that politicians from both sides of the aisle are elected by the power of the ignorant, uninformed American. It's just how the electoral process is set up. When the dust settles, the average Joe or Jane that votes will have only seen snippets of what the candidate is really about and bases his/her opinion on those snapshots of a much bigger picture. It's like choosing between a cold glass of Coke or Pepsi: both sound refreshing but in the end all we end up with are acid rotten teeth (metaphorically speaking), acid reflux, and a bad aftertaste no matter which one we choose.

I think the Internet has had a very positive effect on the political process. It is getting more people to "notice" what our leaders vote for and say and do every day. I never paid this much attention to politics before the 2004 election. The internet is the civic discourse that we had at one time and then lost. I just wish more people were interested.
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